Honoria BENTLEY b.1833 Limerick

[MissyJ137]

Hi All,

I'm trying to find out information about the parents Honoria Anna BENTLEY b.1833 in Limerick. I have information about her life in Australia but nothing before she arrived in 1849.

I know she died on 29th November 1902 from her probate documents and need to find the index number for her death certificate. She changed her name to Henrietta had married twice, first to Albert BALZARY, then William LOVETT.

Many thanks,
Mel

[Dundee]

Hi Mel,

Is there any particular reason that you want her death cert?  Her marriage in 1875 to William LOVETT would have far more reliable information aboout her origins.

Debra 

[MissyJ137]

Thanks for the suggestion Debra. I'm just trying to get hold of any documentation that might lead me further into my search in Ireland to see why she was sent out on the ship as an orphan or if she did infact have a living parent when she left. I knew I didn't have a copy of the death certificate as I didn't have the index number so thought it might have been the next step.

[trish1120]

Age is out but time frame right;


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Hetta Leonora Lovett
Name:    Hetta Leonora Lovett
Death Place:    Malvern, Victoria
Age:    59
Registration Year:    1902
Registration Place:    Victoria
Registration number:    14534
Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1843

Someone must have some Certs, from a Tree on Anc;
Quote from Tree
*Parents THOMAS and CATHERINE, nee RYE
Fathers Occp Coachbuilder (listed on Henrietta's 2nd marraige certificate)*

Trish

[sparrett]

I'm trying to find out information about the parents Honoria Anna BENTLEY


Some of the names dates and places here are not sitting well!

Marriage

BALZARY Vincent Albt (b. PORTLAND)
BARTLEY Honorah (b PORTLAND)
Year 1885
Reg 4040

Death

BALZARY Albert Viscent
Father Unknown
Mother
Age 51
Birth Place HUNG
Year 1865
Reg   6476

Birth

BALZARY Edwin Albert
Father: Albert Vinzent
Mother  Honoretta BENTLEY
Birth Place LAMP
Year: 1860
Reg 15699


Death

BALZARY Edwin Albt
Father Balzary Albt Vincent
Mother Hentta Lenora   BENTLEY
MVERN
Age 81
Year 1945
Reg 12635


Death

LOVETT  Hetta Leonora
Father Unknown
Mother Unknown UNKNOWN
Age 59
Death Place Mvern
Year 1902
Reg. 14534

Marriage

LOVETT William (b. Middlesex)
BALZRAY Henrietta
Year 1875
Reg Number: 985

[sparrett]

 Death of a sibling of EDWIN ALBERT BALZARY

PECK Eleanor Albertha
Father Balzary Albt Vincent
Mother Henrietta  BENTLEY
Death Place DUNOLLY
Age 77
Year 1938
Reg  14157



Sue

[majm]

search in Ireland to see why she was sent out on the ship as an orphan or if she did infact have a living parent when she left.

I think perhaps that the 19th Century meaning for "orphan" was broader than the 21st Century meaning......  I think you could well find that an orphan in the 1800s was simply a child who was not financially supported by either parents (I believe this was due usually to the parents deteriorating circumstances) ....   I have quite a few examples of children aged under 14 who were in Orphan Schools in Sydney NSW from the 1820s and who were admitted to those institutions by their mother or their father....

The following link should take you to the NSW State Records Office index for Child Care and Protection.   Use the keywords "John Smith" and notice that there's several by that very popular name who were admitted to the Orphanages.   For example, there's a John SMITH, aged 4 years  admitted to the Protestant Male Orphanage School just two days after Christmas 1864.   The names of both his parents are listed on the index, suggesting both parents were present at his hand-over.  It is a Very Sad reality, but I see no reason to believe the broad definition of Orphan was confined to the then Sydney NSW based government administration processes. 

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/searchform.aspx?id=74

Cheers,  JM

[sparrett]

Death Notice for HENRIETTA LOVETT lists further children

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tp0/ 

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Monday 1 December 1902

Sue

[majm]

There’s a lass aged 16, listed as Honora BENTLEY arriving to Port Phillip on the Pemberton 14 May 1849.  She was a House Servant, from Limerick, a Roman Catholic and she could read and write.

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4816/Pemberton_14%20May%201849/4_481600248.jpg&No=2     That’s a link to the NSW SRO’s passenger list showing that Honora.   (In 1849, Victoria was still part of NSW).

I think you would need more than just that page from that passenger list to confirm that Honora BENTLEY as your lass.    Victoria's marriage certs have so much depth of information on them, including where born, names of the parents of the bride and groom, etc etc.   I think as you have her marrying several times, that you ought to work towards obtaining the first mc.    to see what information Honora provided initially.   

Cheers,  JM