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Offline Tom Langley

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Hanmer Parish records. Some destroyed by fire.
« on: Wednesday 15 May 13 19:57 BST (UK) »
Hi, ive been tracing my grandmothers family the Broads, who lived the Hanmer, Flintshire area in the 1800s. Ive gotten back to John and Mary Broad who i have found in records of their two childrens baptisms. Elizabeth 23/02/1800 and John 24/07/1803.
I understand that some records just before 1800 (i think a period of about 10 years) were destroyed in a fire, and there are no Broads in the parish in the earlier surviving records.
I suspect John was from Cheshire as there are a few in that county.
Can anyone think of any way i could get further back with this?

Tom
Langley, Broughton, Taylor, Broad, Cooper, Owen, Bennion, Yorke, Knox, Norcup, Holland, Brookes, White, Davies, Huntbach, Bowler, Barnett.

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Re: Hanmer Parish records. Some destroyed by fire.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 May 13 23:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Tom,its been a while since we were in touch!This explains what happened during the fire;
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Hanmer/index.html

Yes its just a very sad state of affairs really.Of course if you are working with a known local family it is possible to make an "educated guess".

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Hanmer Parish records. Some destroyed by fire.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 May 13 18:52 BST (UK) »
Hi, i didnt know the full story of what happened! Im still hopeful ill crack this, maybe with some other set of records.

Tom
Langley, Broughton, Taylor, Broad, Cooper, Owen, Bennion, Yorke, Knox, Norcup, Holland, Brookes, White, Davies, Huntbach, Bowler, Barnett.

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Re: Hanmer Parish records. Some destroyed by fire.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 May 13 19:28 BST (UK) »
Well Tom,the births for Hanmer are still intact,it is the marriages that are what were destroyed in the fire.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Hanmer Parish records. Some destroyed by fire.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 16:24 BST (UK) »
Apparently the Family Search have a microfilm copy available of a list of marriages for the period 1563 to 1837. Have you tried this?

I have a Thomas Lee who I believe was married in Hanmer c1790 and have been unable to find as yet.

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Brian Slater
Ackroyd Ashmore Ball bennett Booth(Stone - Staffs 1840) Bramwell Brookes Burgess Cherrozlei(Manchester 1830-1890) Ellis Gittins Griffiths Hill Hinks Hitchen Holliss Hoyle Leigh Millett Oldfield Ollerenshaw Parry Pierce Ratcliffe Roberts(Llanarman-Yn-Ial 1780s) Sanson Scully(Tullee Co Claire 1820s) Slater(Colne/Burnley 1790-1830) Swain(Gawsworth) Swindells(Gawsworth) Thompstone(Gawsworth)  Williamson

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Re: Hanmer Parish records. Some destroyed by fire.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 17:05 BST (UK) »
Well Brian they have probably been drawn up from the Bishop's Transcripts.I'd love to know more about your Thomas Lee?

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Hanmer Parish records. Some destroyed by fire.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 July 13 11:21 BST (UK) »
Hi William,

Not a lot to tell about Thomas Lee. My connection to him is through his daughter Mary who was baptised in 1800 at Hanmer and married Richard Pierce in 1825 at Overton.

To date I have the children of Thomas and Mary Lee as: Mary, Ester, Thomas, Jane, Mary, William and Anne.

The 1841 census has a Thomas and Mary Lee both aged c75 living in Tybroughton. I cannot find their marriage which presumably was in that part of the register destroyed.

Regards
Brian
Ackroyd Ashmore Ball bennett Booth(Stone - Staffs 1840) Bramwell Brookes Burgess Cherrozlei(Manchester 1830-1890) Ellis Gittins Griffiths Hill Hinks Hitchen Holliss Hoyle Leigh Millett Oldfield Ollerenshaw Parry Pierce Ratcliffe Roberts(Llanarman-Yn-Ial 1780s) Sanson Scully(Tullee Co Claire 1820s) Slater(Colne/Burnley 1790-1830) Swain(Gawsworth) Swindells(Gawsworth) Thompstone(Gawsworth)  Williamson

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Re: Hanmer Parish records. Some destroyed by fire.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 July 13 13:06 BST (UK) »
I'm not seeing the 1841 Census entry on Ancestry?

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Hanmer Parish records. Some destroyed by fire.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 July 13 13:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: wrjones on Wednesday 03 July 13 13:06 BST (UK)
I'm not seeing the 1841 Census entry on Ancestry?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Here tis, WR  :)

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