A plea for help - London Researchers - just how good are you??

[Wiggy]

I am  "pleading" you for help to figure out what happened to  . . .

Christiana Catharine Charlotta THOMPSON baptised in St Giles, Cripplegate, 13 Sept 1789, with parents as James and Elizabeth THOMPSON.... 

I would dearly like to find out what happened to this person - I have found several people with the same names or close variations, but this one is unaccounted for from what I can see - (I expect there are others too . . . but the method I used to search didn't turn them up!)

I have been searching for many years for a Christina Catharine/Catharine Christina McNally born circa 1790 who first appeared in Van Diemens Land as the unmarried mother of Thomas McNally at his christening at St Davids, in Hobart Town (as in Tasmania Australia).  Catharine Christiana McNally was referred to in various records in the 1820s as Mrs Ransom.  Thomas Ransom (Snr) died in 1829, leaving his estate to Catharine and her son Thomas.   As Christina Catharine McNally, widow, she  married near Hobart in 1830 to Frederick Lewis von Stieglitz.    She was known most of her life as Christina from what I can gather.   

The discrepancy in her being first unmarried and then widow  - with the same name, McNally - which make me wonder how to find her maiden name - so I have to eliminate each and every . . . 

I have all the info for her life from that second marriage until her death in August 1857 in Tasmania.   

Note: her death cert does NOT give any information about her parents or about her maiden name/s.

I am putting this question on the London board with the view to finding what happened to Miss Thompson, to eliminate her from my search for your Christiana Catharine McNally/Ransom/Von Stieglitz.

I am definitely not a brilliant researcher, so would crave your assistance for this odd query please.  Working forward is so much more difficult that working backwards.

It is a long stretch and a big ask - but if any of your experienced people have the time, and skill,  I'd be so grateful.

Sorry to be so long-winded - it is difficult!   

Wiggy

[[Ray]]

Hi

[ Nothing to do with how "good" anyone is, but how my ocd is ]

THOMSPON? [ your speeling not mine ]   

? Do you really mean . . . . .
Christiana Catharine Charlotta Thompson
Parent(s):    James Thompson / Elizah Thompson
Baptism Date:    13 Sep 1789
Parish:    St Giles, Cripplegate / London / City of London

Ray

[Wiggy]

Errr - yes!  Sorry   

my CC McNally was sometimes called Catharine and sometimes/mostly Christina!  So we don't know which way.

Thank goodness for your OCD!     (it was the thought of getting to the dentist did it!)

Fixed it now  thanks Ray

[Valda]

Hi

There is a Christiana Stayte, a widow aged 60 born Little Britain in St Giles Cripplegate on the 1851 census. HO107 1525 folio 74.  Aged 52 on the 1841 census also in St Giles Cripplegate HO107 727 Bk3 Folio 26

This is a possible death registration for her.
Death Registration June Quarter 1860 East London registration district (City of London registration district including St Giles Cripplegate)
Christiana Charlotte Catherine Stayte
Volume 1c Page 13

Little Britain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Britain,_London


Christiana was 'married' to George Stayte a ship worker. There is a baptism for their daughter Christiana in 1813 but not John and Sarah Ann. No obvious marriage found for George and Christiana.


Regards

Valda

[Wiggy]

Thank you very much Valda

Been trying to look up using my FindMyPast subs with those references but getting nowhere.  However I will believe you!! 

 - the name combination and the age and dates and area seem to rule this one out then don't they - Oh well - at least I can tick it off the list.

Thank you very much - thought it was a bit of a long shot!   

Wiggy

[jomcd967]

Oh Wiggy, bad luck, I was hoping you would hit the jackpot here! I am currently reading page 27 of your 38 page post back in 2009 detailing your hunt for Catharine and am utterly intrigued, thoroughly educated and astounded at all the information and details uncovered thus far. Better than any novel I could have picked up to pass the time....you will find her...sending you lots of positive thoughts to that end.
Best wishes, Jo 

[majm]

 

Lots of fingers were crossed here in NSW for Wiggy's thread.   

May I ask Valda please .....  How certain can we be that the 1841 and 1851 sightings would be for the lass baptised back in 1789, the daughter of a Weaver (on the record I found today) ..... Is it possible/likely/probable/very likely/'just has to be" .....  so basically ..... I guess I am saying ..... Do we cross the lass baptised 1789 off the list of 'suspects' ?  .......

Of course us colonials never give up looking for Wiggy's CCMcN .... a brave lass who faced many hostile situations and was courageous, sensible, and respected by her local community and raised two children to become good colonial currency lads and lasses ..... 

Wiggy, we will find her eventually, ......

Cheers,  JM

[Valda]

Hi

If the death certificate for Christiana Charlotte Catherine Stayte is a widow of the correct age and all other information ties in with the 1851 and 1841 censuses then you have a woman born in the correct area of the right age called Christiana Charlotte Catherine something or other. Without a marriage her surname remains unproven. However Christiana Catherine Charlotte Thompson is the only baptism found at the right time and right place. If they aren't the same woman you would need two with those three first name combinations.
The daughter of a weaver 'marrying' a labourer/ship worker would be about the right class combination. Daughter Christiana married twice (1835 and 1870) and made her mark. Younger sister Sarah Ann signed her name on her two marriages (1844 and 1849).

Regards

Valda

[Valda]

Hi

If at first you don't succeed....

5th July 1812 St Giles Cripplegate
Geo. Hen. Stayte otp bachelor and Chris. Cath. Char. Tomson otp spinster married by banns
George signed and Christiana made her mark, name written as C. C. C. Tomson
Witnesses ? Richardson and Robt Davidson


Regards

Valda