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Re: Can Rootschat members help? - Lost Teddy Bear 'Seeks' Owner
« Reply #117 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 02:26 BST (UK) »
"Who co-ordinates a photo session with living children to commemorate a dead child's birthday? But that's just my way of thinking."

It strikes me as pretty grim and creepy, too, but I figured maybe Baby had died while Daddie was away at war.  Why would the mother have referred to both Dora and Baby if they were, in fact, the same kid?

Is it more common to give a first child the nickname 'Baby' or a later one?  I've only known one child with this nickname.  He was the third of four and the only boy.  The poor kid was still being called 'El Bebé' when he was about five.
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« Reply #118 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 02:36 BST (UK) »
I wonder, although we'll probably never know, if the note " Taken on Baby's birthday..............."
was written at a much later date than the message to Daddie.
Why would someone even back then have a photograph taken of their children in March 1918 but wait 1 year and 5 months before sending it to the father? I appreciate Daddie may have been in the War but surely he could have received mail before August 1919??
Or is it too late at night and now I'm talking nonsense ???

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« Reply #119 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 03:18 BST (UK) »
There are a lot of posts and I'm repeating opinions of others already expressed.

My viewpoint is that loving little daughter is Dora aka Baby and the photo was taken on her birthday 4 March 1918 at which point Sonnie aka Glyn was one year and 5months old ... which to me looks about right and Dora perhaps 3 yrs ... and extra information added for Daddie.

Plus I do think the patched and well loved bear appears to be a worn version of the one in the group photo. Sad to think it was mislaid in transit and not sought out already!!

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« Reply #120 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 04:52 BST (UK) »
Has anyone noticed that the date at the bottom of card is written as "March 4th, 1918" as opposed to 4 March 1918?
Here in the US, the first is correct but isn't the correct way in the UK the second version?
Wonder if the writer was American...?

My 'computer guru', who instructs CAD/CAM (computer assisted design & machining) is a wiz at Photoshop. She was able to clean up the postcard wonderfully. Unfortunately, I am not a computer wizard and cannot correct the size to add to the thread!  >:( ::)
Her version looks as if the writer started to write 'Dora' but slipped making the 'r' and then added a loop to make it legible.
I will try to get it into the thread but am losing hope!  :-[

(My husband speculates that the writer might have been left-handed. He is a 'lefty', of course!)
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« Reply #121 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 05:47 BST (UK) »
Has anyone noticed that the date at the bottom of card is written as "March 4th, 1918" as opposed to 4 March 1918?
Here in the US, the first is correct but isn't the correct way in the UK the second version?
Wonder if the writer was American...?


When writing the date in full here in the UK I don't think we have a hard & fast rule as to whether it is written 4th March 1918 or March 4th 1918  it is only when written as 4/3/1918 that we would write it as day/month/year
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« Reply #122 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 06:30 BST (UK) »
Has anyone noticed that the date at the bottom of card is written as "March 4th, 1918" as opposed to 4 March 1918?
Here in the US, the first is correct but isn't the correct way in the UK the second version?
Wonder if the writer was American...?

I thought Americans never use the "th", and would write that date as March 4, 1918?
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« Reply #123 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 06:51 BST (UK) »
Rosie99: Thanks for that info - I have gotten confused before with the UK day/month/year and US month/day/year.
KGarrad: Actually, I have always used the 'th' ('old school' education, probably) but have noticed that it seems to be falling away here in the US and is not seen as much as it once was.
Thanks for clearing that up.  :)
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« Reply #124 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 07:41 BST (UK) »
I have just read all 13 pages of this thread.

I only have one thing to add while I digest what everyone has said.

My Aunt was the eldest and known by the family as "Our Babe" and my dad was the youngest (there were only the two children) and he was known as "Son". The family was English but not far from Wales.

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« Reply #125 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 07:55 BST (UK) »
I thought people might like to compare the bear photos.
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