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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #9 on: Monday 03 June 13 12:54 BST (UK) »
Has anyone a second marriage for Thomasin, if the youngest is a wilkinson, then it must be around 1837?

The Wilkinson son could be Francis's from a previous marriage.

I cant see a post-1837 for Thomas Ellington and Francis Wilkinson
Which implies it was either pre 1837, OR they didnt actually marry (probably if either of their previous spouses were still alive)
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 03 June 13 14:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lizdb

Ages seem to bonce around a bit between 1841 & 1851? I notice Francis has gained 20 yrs and Thomasine 15 , whereas in fact Thomasine would have been 38 on the first and 48 on the second.

Thomasine's marriage to Henry George Ellington was 16th Dec 1821 at Littleham Church Near Exmouth Devon  and was reported in 'the Exeter Flying Post' and is on Devon Marriages - Transcripts (for the records). Last Ellington child - Peter, was born 1834, so they must have been living somewhere up to 1834, if she was widowed then 1833 can be the earliest.

Losses at sea at that epoch were very high, so I jumped to that conclusion, but I don't know.

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 07:17 BST (UK) »
Another pointer to where and what happened, might be the fact that Tammy herself died and was buried at Holy Trinity Church in 1834  Sunderland record No. 466231.2 - at the time she was living in South Moor Street Bishopwearmouth ( maybe with daughter ). As far as I know Tammy's husband ( Thomas Goodsir died in 1831 in Whitby - still to be comfirmed by Cleveland.

For moment searched all death at sea possibles and nothing - Help !is there an Ellington in the house!! who might know more?

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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 11:54 BST (UK) »
Have just been given : Henry George Ellington's death on 14th June 1896, age 69 YRS - now this

would fall in with the birth of the son in 1827, if he was baptised as Henry George -

could that be looked up please?  _ Other info is that he was a Labourer and lived at 31

Hopper Street Bishopwearmouth, service by  - Rev.W.Budgen - buried in consecrated ground

Ward13 Section.A.  GRAVE 18 - Remarks - INTERED 15th July  ???????????
Goodsir.  Ellington. Tillman.  Wilson. AngAs. Capstaff (Northumberland & Durham)
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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 13:33 BST (UK) »
Hi John

MARRIAGE: 1853 Sunderland
Henry George ELLINGTON
One of the brides: Sarah DAVISON
 
CENSUS 1861: 4 Minorca, Sunderland
RG 9 /  Piece: 3777 /  Folio: 12 /  Page: 18
Head: Sarah ELLINGTON 31, b Lanchester
 
1860: 2nd Mate's Certificate
Henry George ELLINGTON, born 1826 Sunderland, Durham
Address: 4 Minorca Place, Sunderland
Passed his exam at Sheilds on 10 Mar 1860
Granted 15 Mar 1860, Cert issued 17 March 1860
 
1860: Only Mate's Certificate
Henry George ELLINGTON, born 1826 Sunderland, Durham
Address: 4 Minorca Place, Sunderland
Passed his exam at Sunderland on 21 Mar 1860
Granted 24 Mar 1860, Cert issued 27 March 1860
 
1865: Master's Certificate
Henry George ELLINGTON, born 1826 Sunderland, Durham
Address: 45 Northumberland Street, Sunderland
Passed his exam at Newcastle on 1 April 1865
Granted 4 April 1865, Cert issued 6 April 1865
 
CENSUS 1871:  18 Salem Street, Bishopwearmouth
RG10 /  Piece: 5010 /  Folio: 9 /  Page: 15
Wife (Head): Sarah ELLINGTON 43, married, Mariner's Wife , from home , b Wolsingham, Durham
 
CENSUS 1881: Hodgsons Buildings, Bishopwearmouth
RG11 /  Piece: 4986 /  Folio: 127 /  Page: 40 /
Head: Henry G ELLINGTON 54, Master Mariner, b Sunderland
Wife: Sarah ELLINGTON 52, b Lanchester
 
CENSUS 1891: 38 Malborough St, Bishopwearmouth
RG12 /  Piece: 4127 /  Folio: 36 /  Page: 64 /
Head: Henry G ELLINGTON 64, Coal Hawker, b Sunderland
Wife: Isabella ELLINGTON 62, b Lanchester
Yes, Isabella is wrong - I feel it is actually Sarah (as opposed to a new wife) and that the enumerator may have made a mistake when writing up the schedule in his book.

It's not uncommon for an "ordinary" mariner - master or not, to take on a regular civilian occupation after 'retiring' from the sea.
 
DEATH 1896:
George Henry ELLINGTON age 69, Sunderland
(name transposed?)
 
BURIAL:  1896
Sunderland: Henry George ELLINGTON (b abt 1826), 38 Hopper Street
http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/newsearch.php
 
DEATH:
Sarah ELLINGTON age 69, Sunderland
 
BURIAL: 1897
Sunderland: Sarah ELLINGTON (b abt 1828), 21 Johnson Street
http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/newsearch.php


I've also found Lavinia,  posting that in a mo.

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AMBLY
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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 13:42 BST (UK) »
Hi John

Here's Lavinia - well, I'm 99.99% certain it's her; I  can't find the marriage of her & Joseph.
Lavinia's age is all over the place! Joseph's is not much better - and his birthplace  meanders around also, though he goes full circle from 1851 to 1881.

CENSUS 1851:  Front Street, Village of Spittal, Northumberland
HO107 / Piece  2421 / Folio  245 / Pg  4
Head: Joseph WILSON 39, mariner, b Crosthwaite, Cumberland
Wife: Lavinia WILSON 28, Domestic Duties, b Sunderland (South), Durham
Son: Joseph WILSON 8, Scholar, b Spittal, Northumberland
Dau: Thominson WILSON 4, Scholar, b Spittal, Northumberland
Son: James WILSON 1,b Spittal, Northumberland
Wife's Sister: Emma J WILKINSON 10, Scholar, b Sunderland (South), Durham
Note: Emma J would be the Jane age 1 in the 1841 WILKINSON census - her birth probably:
as Emma Jane WILKINSON - Sep Qtr 1840 Sunderland



CENSUS 1861: Coble Dean,  Chirton, Tynemouth
RG 9 /  Piece  3838 /  Folio  83 /  Pg  54
Head: Joseph WILSON 50, Painter. B Tynemouth, Northumberland
Wife:  Livinia WILSON 32, b Sunderland, Durham
Dau: Thominson WILSON 15, Scholar,  b Scotland
Son: James WILSON 12, Scholar, b Scotland
Son: Henry Geo. WILSON 9, Scholar, b Scotland
Son: Thomas WILSON 6, Scholar, b Scotland
Note: Probably the enumerator making a transcript error reading  re: the pob for the children!

CENSUS 1871: Brunswick Cottage, Chirton, Northumberland
RG10 /  Piece  5115 /  Folio  10 /  Pg  14 /
Head: Joseph WILSON 64, Painter, b North Shields
Wife: Lavinia WILSON 45, b Sunderland, Durham
Son: Henry WILSON 19, unm, Blacksmith, b Spittal, Northumberlands
Son: Thomas WILSON 10, Scholar,b Spittal, Northumberlands

CENSUS 1881:  Brunswick Cottage, Chirton, Northumberland
RG11 /  Piece  5076 /  Folio  102 /  Pg  49
Head: Joseph WILSON 74, Labourer, b Whitehaven
Wife: Livania WILSON (sic), 53, b Sunderland, Durham
Son: Henry WILSON 29, unm, Shipsmith (builder), b Spittal

DEATH: 1886
Lavinia WILSON age 67, Tynemouth

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AMBLY
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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 14:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ambly

That great, and I am sure you are right, about his retirement job - I am just having a break from painting the window surrounds - my North East Collier time was long ago. Since I am painting white on white I had better get back to it before I loose where I was!!!! will give it my full attention later and come back on it.

That really is excellent thanks again - oh now I've got paint on the Keys !!

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John
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 14:44 BST (UK) »
 ;D  ;D  Hope the painting going well and most of it going where it ought!

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Re: Tammy married her daughter off - ELLINgTON Family
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 16:34 BST (UK) »
Ages seem to bonce around a bit between 1841 & 1851? I notice Francis has gained 20 yrs and Thomasine 15 , whereas in fact Thomasine would have been 38 on the first and 48 on the second....Transcripts (for the records). Last Ellington child - Peter, was born 1834, so they must have been living somewhere up to 1834, if she was widowed then 1833 can be the earliest.

Hello John,

Erm ... are you sure Peter was born 1834?

If, from the census, well .... "ages seem to bonce around a bit" as you say.

If, from the Bishops' Transcripts, suggest that you double check whether that is, in fact, birth year or baptismal year. Why? Because if Peter was actually born a little bit earlier, I would suggest the Sunderland Cholera Epidemic of 1831 as a *possible* cause for Henry's disappearance.

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Westoe