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1891 census COMPLETED
« on: Thursday 06 June 13 15:48 BST (UK) »
Isaac James Davies born 1885 Wolverhampton
 not with parents on 1891 Thomas James and Mary Jane in Wesley Street Wolverhampton
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DOB given1885 Wolverhampton
Marr 1916 Wolverhampton to Martha H Barlow
Died 1948 Wolverhampton
 any ideas would like to prove or disprove
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: 1891 census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 June 13 16:10 BST (UK) »
Do you have him in 1901, if so where

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Re: 1891 census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 June 13 16:18 BST (UK) »
Do you know if his Grandfather was also a Thomas ?

I ask as there is only one ISAAC DAVIES birth registered in Wolverhampton 1883-1888, so I wondered if the ISSAC with purported parents Thomas (c1833, Wales) & Elizabeth is in fact their grandchild?

RG12; Piece: 2236; Folio: 12; Page: 23

He is 7 years younger than the next child, and 'Mother' Elizabeth is 50 in 1891 ...


Looks like Mary Jane Davies remarried - to James Currigan - most of the younger Davies kids can be seen with the Currigan couple in 1901 - but Isaac is only aged 8 ??

RG13; Piece: 2672; Folio: 33; Page: 16


Hmmm - its correct ...

Births Mar 1893   

Davies  Isaac    Wolverhampton  6b 572 

So, either you had the wrong parents and the lad seen with a Thomas & Elizabeth is correct, or did the Isaac c1885 die, and Thomas J & Mary J named a later child Isaac ?

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Re: 1891 census
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 June 13 16:26 BST (UK) »
Class: RG12; Piece: 2236; Folio: 12; Page: 23;

 possibly  him with  grandparents Thomas and Elizabeth  , Thomas born  Wales  ,  Elizabeth  born Wolverhampton   ( tho    he's down as son )   


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Re: 1891 census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 June 13 16:26 BST (UK) »
Thomas died 1896 Mary remmaried
m. Currigan, James
1899
Wolverhampton
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: 1891 census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 June 13 16:28 BST (UK) »
1891
26 Wesley Street Wolverhampton (from 10 Eagle Street and slept at 26 Wesley St on Sunday April 5th)
Thomas Jas Davies head 31 yrs white smith b Worcestershire Dudley
Mary Jane Davies wife 28 yrs b Staffordshire Compton
Frances Eliza daur 6 yrs Scholar
Lily 4 yrs Scholar
Bertie 2 yrs
Esther 3 months
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: 1891 census
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 June 13 16:45 BST (UK) »
I am confused  :-\

You say that Isaac James is part of the family you show in 1891 but his birth reg is the next qtr after one for a Frances Eliza - do you have his birth certificate

Births March qtr 1885   
DAVIES    Frances Eliza        Wolverhampton    6b   565

Births June qtr 1885 
Davies    Isaac James        Wolverhampton    6b   594
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Re: 1891 census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 June 13 16:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that it looks like I have been given a false birth here or possibly wrong name all others are correct
Geoff
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING