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Interpretation of Naval records
« on: Sunday 09 June 13 15:15 BST (UK) »
Please could someone possibly transcribe the sub-ratings columns on the attachment, apart from the dates obviously. Also is there a site or a book where the meaning of old military abbreviations can be found?
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Re: Interpretation of Naval records
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 June 13 17:26 BST (UK) »
T M = Trained Man -- he had some specialist skill entitling him to an additional allowance

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Re: Interpretation of Naval records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 June 13 19:29 BST (UK) »
T M = Trained Man -- he had some specialist skill entitling him to an additional allowance

Book, I think that would be unlikely for a Boy 2nd Class, as shown in the Rating column. I can't offer an alternative though  ??? ???

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Re: Interpretation of Naval records
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 June 13 19:52 BST (UK) »
Don't know if they are Yeoman (1 &2 ) and a Telegraphist (3). Can you give us the individual names?

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Re: Interpretation of Naval records
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 June 13 18:00 BST (UK) »
There seems to be some debate about this. I would agree that it would be rather unusual to call a boy of 15yrs a trained man. The man in question was my grandfather Arthur Moth who was born on 26 May 1877 and it appears from his records for 'period of service' that the first date is 28 Sep 1892. I wonder if I should move this to the armed forces section?

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Re: Interpretation of Naval records
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 June 13 18:32 BST (UK) »
I'll bow to others' superior knowledge on this. But St Vincent was a training ship, and he was serving for 5 years from 1892, before being rated T M in 1897. So might he not have acquired some specialist skills in that time?

AnnieP, to have the thread moved I think you'll need to contact a moderator.

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Re: Interpretation of Naval records
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 June 13 20:08 BST (UK) »
I stand corrected, that does make sense, thank you. I suppose you don't know a site where I can find all this information?


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Re: Interpretation of Naval records
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 June 13 20:11 BST (UK) »
Paul Benyon's site is excellent. It's not fully indexed, but it's packed with information.  :)

http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

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Re: Interpretation of Naval records
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 June 13 07:47 BST (UK) »
Boy 2nd class  Yeoman -  a boy aged 15 to 17 rated as such on entry to a training ship
Brigade Intelligence and communication /Battlefield Information Centre but more likely to be Boy 1st Class  Yeoman
Brigade intelligence and communication /Battlefield Information Centre  - Boy 1st class  Telegrapher/semaphor perhaps?



This link could be helpful

http://www.armedforces.co.uk/abbreviationsiq.htm#Q

as might this although most of this is modern day jargon and American.



http://www.navyformoms.com/group/bootcampmoms/page/what-does-mean-a-guide-to-navy-abbreviations-and-terminology

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