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Re: Help with document writing please.
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 20 June 13 11:32 BST (UK) »
Don't panic,they were all for stealing cloth- maybe she just wanted to clothe her children?
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 20 June 13 11:34 BST (UK) »
Or selling it to feed them :-\
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 20 June 13 11:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that, you're a darling  :-*

Was very much a matter of survival wasn't it..........especially for the Irish Catholics. No wonder so many of them deliberately committed crimes in the hope of transportation and a new life.

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« Reply #21 on: Friday 21 June 13 10:39 BST (UK) »
I believe it refers to Cashel (mispelt) sessions- Even if the person was  from the Clonmel area they would be sent to the nearest sessions court in the area where the offence took place.
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« Reply #22 on: Friday 21 June 13 10:45 BST (UK) »
Just noticed that her husband Thomas was transported earlier in the year - wonder if Mary committed the offences in an effort to be transported and re- join her husband - there are similar stories - especially as most of the children accompanied her.
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« Reply #23 on: Friday 21 June 13 10:59 BST (UK) »
The lovely Carol has sent a doc which clearly states that Thomas was sent to Cashell - spelt with 2 ll's, and then moved to Dublin ready for transportation.
She also sent another doc for Mary on her own which gives the name of a Robert Banks as the store owner which she stole fabric from. As Carol pointed out, it's a line of investigation that might be worth looking at.

I initially wondered if that was the case as well AnnClare, but both Thomas and Mary seemed to have up in front of the courts a number of times. Of course they may have been repeat offenders until they managed to get transported. As you said, it happened a lot by folks looking for something better than what life in Ireland had to offer, especially if you were Catholic.

Also, Mary's cause would have been delayed as she would have had to petition the courts for her children to be allowed to accompany her. Would love to get my hands on that petition.

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« Reply #24 on: Friday 21 June 13 12:11 BST (UK) »
A Robert Banks is showing in Slater's Directory  1846 in Clonmel address Malu St (think this is an error and should be Main St.)as a Linen Draper Also in Griffiths Valuation (land tax records ) printed in 1850 but compiled a few years before - showing as a landowner/property owner  in Cashel St as well as other areas in Clonmel.
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« Reply #25 on: Friday 21 June 13 12:15 BST (UK) »
Also, Mary's cause would have been delayed as she would have had to petition the courts for her children to be allowed to accompany her. Would love to get my hands on that petition.
Unfortunately the transportation database is not showing any reference to a petition for Mary only a reference to the transportation register which very sparse details - so its unlikely anything further can be found in the National Archives. Newspapers of the time might have some details
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