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« Reply #108 on: Monday 09 November 15 14:56 GMT (UK) »
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« Reply #109 on: Monday 09 November 15 15:00 GMT (UK) »
Hum, Adam was telling fibs allright.

The military records are for 1918 where he said Alice was his wife and that they had been married 4 years.

We know he didn't marry 'til 1919.

Yup, I'd defo take his parent's name with a pinch of salt for now !

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« Reply #110 on: Monday 09 November 15 15:02 GMT (UK) »
There are notes that he was being called on looking for his birth cert and looking for the address of his wife.

The plot thickens !!!!

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« Reply #111 on: Monday 09 November 15 15:08 GMT (UK) »
If I'm reading the documents correctly it appears he signed up, never saw active duty, was absent from first roll call, about a month after joining put in a claim to say he had been disabled.

No claim was given.

I wonder was his and Alice's a marriage of convenience  ???

Something to satisfy a military requirement.

It might be worth looking for Alice under her maiden name after 1919.

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« Reply #112 on: Monday 09 November 15 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Question

Alice Fox married 1st August 1919 in Liverpool.

Is that correct ?

What was her occupation on the marriage cert ?

What was her address ?

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Margaret Fox

She married August 1919 in Liverpool.

What DATE ?

What was her occupation on her marriage cert ?

What was her address on her marriage cert ?

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HA I wonder can you see where I'm going with this  ;D :o ;D

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« Reply #113 on: Monday 09 November 15 17:01 GMT (UK) »
The other Adam / Alice marriage

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26QV-Q5Q

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« Reply #115 on: Wednesday 11 November 15 21:33 GMT (UK) »
TARA, I just opened up and saw the posts. You are hilarious asking questions and then answering them all...giggle. I will also try:
1. Married at Register office Jan 16, 1919: Alice was single, Mineral Water Bottler, Foreman for Coal Dealer and Adam was bachelor, Private 416929, 49 Stafford Street. Father John was a Farmer.  They were also married in the Catholic Church Aug 1, 1919.  He 110 Soho St and she 110 Soho St. Joannis et Mariae Alexander and Michaelis et Margaritae Fox. Looks like he was gone in Jan 1919 and I suspect to get married. I saw the disability form but stated no disability.
2. Adam and Alice in Manitoba were living in Canada in 1904 so not them.
3. I ordered the birth cert for David Fox from Steyling [sic] with the caveat of Adam and Alice Fox as parents and nothing. So I didn't purchase.
4. Maggie [Margaret] was a hotel waitress at 14 Scourfield st. Nicholas Fox deceased. Master Mariner and Keith Stewart Stationary Engine Driver 28 Crown St, Father: Leveson Douglas Stewart deceased Civil Engineer. Margaret married well, as this family is a collateral branch of the 6th Earl of Galloway.   
5. Yes Dathai, got the birth cert, but I never saw. I remember he said Nicholas was a porter.
6. I love addresses and long ago I made a table with all addresses and put people under these, which is how I came to my first conclusion that Alicia, Catherine, and Alice were sisters. 17 Gloucester or Glouchester brings great results.
7. I was loving findmypast and didn't mind at all when my 14 day went to annual until I tried to look at a 1939 record and got peed, so I cancelled. I will get the subscription again but hope it goes on special before Christmas.
8. I was thinking of Maggie at 15 stealing a coat et al. and you are right I didn't find any other prison records.
9. Thanks for the uplift on Nicholas. In fact, Dathai first pointed me to his death at Glasnevin and I discounted as said was married... But after getting dozens of burial records and many with Nicholas Fox as informant, I thought he was so responsible. I contacted Glasnevin and asked about Nicholas Fox and if he was informant on all these family graves where is he and they said they made an error and he was that person and in the same family grave.

Thanks thanks thanks!!...
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« Reply #116 on: Wednesday 11 November 15 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Maggie was married Aug 23, 1919 and from then belonged to the Church of England. Did not have a Catholic wedding as Alice. I wonder if the sisters were even in touch. On Maggie's Ocean arrival she lists the nearest relative from country from which you came as Mrs. E Stewart sister,  122 Tunnell Rd. this was her sister in law. Why not mention Alice Alexander? Also listed herself as b. in  Liverpool and Religion C of E. This was March 25, 1922 traveling to join husband in Mooose Jaw Sask.

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