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Offline GemmaEdmed

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Help with a couple I'm stuck on?!
« on: Monday 24 June 13 02:21 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I'm really stuck with a couple in my family tree.  I have them on census's from 1861 and 1881 as a married couple and both of their birth years and places, yet I cannot find info on either set of parents.  I have no maiden name for the wife and, really the only evidence I have of birth dates/places for either of them comes from census's.  I'm not sure where to go from here, so I'm hoping if I list all their info below, someone might be able to give me a clue where to look next?!

John Stevenson, born about 1813 in Wednesbury, Staffordshire.  Listed on the 1861 census as living in Bermondsey, Surrey.  Occupation believed to be "Government Gun Lock Inspector" at the Royal Small Arms Factory in Edmonton, Enfield. (I had help on here earlier to translate the occupation!) In the 1881 census he is listed as living in Enfield, Hampshire and working as a gun maker at the royal SA factory.

Amelia Stevenson (wife), born about 1817 in Bilston, Staffordshire.

They had six children: Priscilla, Letitia, John, Ephraim, George, Albert

On the 1861 census, Sarah Edwards was living with them.

I hope this is enough info!

Thanks for any help you can give me!

Gemma

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Re: Help with a couple I'm stuck on?!
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 June 13 02:34 BST (UK) »
I think this is them in 1851

177 France Street, Aston, Brommington
John   Stephenson   Head   37   1814   M   Moxley, Staffordshire, England  Gun lock filer
Amelia   Stephenson   Wife   34   1817   F   Ettingshall, Staffordshire, England 
Thomas   Stephenson   Son   13   1838   M   Moxley, Staffordshire, England 
Priscila   Stephenson   Daughter   11   1840   F   Enfield Lock, Essex, England 
Amelia   Stephenson   Daughter   9   1842   F   Enfield Lock, Essex, England 
Lettitia   Stephenson   Daughter   8   1843   F   Enfield Lock, Essex, England 
Harriett   Stephenson   Daughter   6   1845   F   Enfield Lock, Essex, England 
Catherine   Stephenson   Daughter   4   1847   F   Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England 
John   Stephenson   Son   11 Mo   1850   M   Birmm, Warwickshire, England 
Gadsby's, Farmers, Neals - Leicestershire
Freemans, Littles, Corbetts, Branns - Australia

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Re: Help with a couple I'm stuck on?!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 June 13 02:49 BST (UK) »
Hi and this is the 1841:-

John Stephenson 25 occ Gunlock Filer
Amelia 20
Prucili 2 b Middx
Amelia 4 months b Middx
Thomas 4
Wright Hughes 20
Residing at Enfield Lock, Enfield
Census Ref HO107/653/ 7/42 / 11
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PS The old Royal Small Arms factory was in Ordnance Road (off Hertford Road), Enfield Lock, Enfield Highway.

Know the place well, a lot of my friends worked there!
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Help with a couple I'm stuck on?!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 June 13 03:23 BST (UK) »
There's a marriage for a John Stephenson and Amelia Hughes on FamilySearch 1836 West Bromwich,Stafford,England https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5V6-VYY.

That fits with that Wright Hughes on the 1841 census.

Christening for Amelia Hughes 1817 Bilston, Stafford, England https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N8T4-VYQ (Parents John & Mary)

Christening for Wright Hughes 1820 Bilston, Stafford, England https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NR6Y-Z1S (Parents John & Mary)



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Re: Help with a couple I'm stuck on?!
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 June 13 03:51 BST (UK) »
Hi again, that marriage looks good!

The 1871 Census

John Stevenson 58 occ Gunmaker b Wales? (Worth looking at original as to what is written beside it)
Amelia 54 b Bilston
Alfred 18 b Warwick
Ephraim 16 b Warwick
George 13 b Warwick
Albert 11 b Cheshunt, Herts
Residing at Warwick Road, Enfield (This road is the last one on the right, before Mollison Avenue, off Ordnance Road)
Census Ref RG10/1345/108/31

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PS in 1881 John and Amelia are living at 60, Mandeville Road, Enfield, Middlesex, I used to live at 58, but not in 1881 though!!
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Help with a couple I'm stuck on?!
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 June 13 04:31 BST (UK) »
Here is the original - I cant read it

Gadsby's, Farmers, Neals - Leicestershire
Freemans, Littles, Corbetts, Branns - Australia

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Re: Help with a couple I'm stuck on?!
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 June 13 08:47 BST (UK) »
From http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/indexes
HUGHES Amelia
Parents John & Mary
Date 16 Mar 1817
Abode Ettingshall,Sedgley
Father's occupation Gunlock smith
Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: Help with a couple I'm stuck on?!
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 June 13 10:14 BST (UK) »
I note that census gives Wednesbury and Moxley (a village in Wednesbury district).  Think this must be his baptism on familysearch:

John Stevinson bp.13/2/1814 St. Bartholomew, Wednesbury, Staffordshire, son of Thomas Stevinson and Nancy.

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Re: Help with a couple I'm stuck on?!
« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 June 13 11:28 BST (UK) »
Wow!  Thanks everyone, I wasn't expecting so much!