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George Cheel (1808, Stockbury).
« on: Tuesday 25 June 13 17:00 BST (UK) »
Hello all,

I'm looking for a George Cheel, middle name possibly Eggleton/Eppleton, who was baptised in Stockbury in 1808. I've already found his mother's name is Elizabeth, but I can't seem to find his father.

Any help greatly appreciated :)

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Alan.
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Re: George Cheel (1808, Stockbury).
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 17:06 BST (UK) »
What does the christening say, does it indicate that Elizabeth is a single woman.  ???

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Re: George Cheel (1808, Stockbury).
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 17:07 BST (UK) »
What does the christening say, does it indicate that Elizabeth is a single woman.  ???

Rosie

Hi Rosie,

I've only been able to look at his baptism on FamilySearch, so I don't know what it says about the marital status of Elizabeth!  ??? I can't find the record on Ancestry.

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Re: George Cheel (1808, Stockbury).
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 17:20 BST (UK) »
There don't seem to be many instances of the name Cheel in Stockbury on familysearch

Sarah Cheal married Richard Gadd 16 September 1799

William Cheel married Elizabeth Boseley 5 June 1797

William & Elizabeth christen a Hannah 27 January 1805

but William could already have died ... burial of a William 17 November 1804

If George is a son of Elizabeth with no mention of a father Elizabeth could well be the widow of William but that does not solve the mystery as to who Georges father is. :-\

You really need to see if there is any additional information on the registers

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Re: George Cheel (1808, Stockbury).
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 17:27 BST (UK) »
Ah, thanks for that! I didn't even think to check Cheel marriages!  ::)

If anything I imagine that it is William & Elizabeth who are the parents, although yeah, if that's the case, who is the William d. 1804? William & Elizabeth seem to have had: Ann (1798, Hucking nr Stockbury), Mary (1800, Hucking nr Stockbury), Hannah (1805, Stockbury), and then there's poor ol' George whose mother is Elizabeth, but no recorded father.

Unless the record on FamilySearch just doesn't have the father's name, and it was missed off. *shrugs*

Thanks again,

Alan.

There don't seem to be many instances of the name Cheel in Stockbury on familysearch

Sarah Cheal married Richard Gadd 16 September 1799

William Cheel married Elizabeth Boseley 5 June 1797

William & Elizabeth christen a Hannah 27 January 1805

but William could already have died ... burial of a William 17 November 1804

If George is a son of Elizabeth with no mention of a father Elizabeth could well be the widow of William but that does not solve the mystery as to who Georges father is. :-\

You really need to see if there is any additional information on the registers
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Re: George Cheel (1808, Stockbury).
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 19:25 BST (UK) »
George Eggleton CHEEL son of Elizabeth baptised  18 Sept 1808 at Stockbury (from a transcription).

No father mentioned so I would think he was illegitimate.  Illigitimate children were often given their father's surname as a middle name.  It might be worth looking for a bastardy order.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: George Cheel (1808, Stockbury).
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 June 13 20:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Bearkat,

That's really interesting about the middle names and might possibly explain why his middle name is really unusual since it doesn't occur anyway else in the immediate family.

Now to hunt for Eggletons in Stockbury!

Thanks!

Alan.

George Eggleton CHEEL son of Elizabeth baptised  18 Sept 1808 at Stockbury (from a transcription).

No father mentioned so I would think he was illegitimate.  Illigitimate children were often given their father's surname as a middle name.  It might be worth looking for a bastardy order.
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Re: George Cheel (1808, Stockbury).
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 June 13 06:14 BST (UK) »
Hi

If you have access to Stockbury registers it may be worthwhile looking at them before going further.  Transcriptions often don't have 'notes' on them that could appear on the register and you could get clarification as to who the William is who died in 1804 (no ages are on transcripts for this record) and whether there is mention as to whether Elizabeth is a single woman or a widow. As Bearkat says the lack of fathers name often indicates an illegitimate birth and an apparent surname as a middle name a 'link' to the father. 

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