Family of Hugh Joel Morris/Llandudno

[Gadget]

The book that you mention, .Hanes Eglwysi Annibynnol Cymru, is mentioned on the Genuki pages for Llandudno:

    Rees, Thomas & John Thomas.Hanes Eglwysi Annibynnol Cymru (History of the Welsh Independent Churches), 4 volumes (published 1871+). Here is the entry from this book for Llandudno  chapel (in Welsh )  - with translation by Eleri Rowlands (Feb 2012)

Church and chapel data from The Religious census of 1851 : A Calendar of the returns relating to Wales, Vol 11, North Wales. Ed. by Ieuan Gwynedd Jones, UWP, 1981. The names given towards the end of each entry are those of the informants.

Llandudno Parish; Statistics; Area 2729 acres; Population 574 males, 557 females, total 1131

    Llandudno Parish Church       Consecrated 1840 in lieu of the old church        Attendance - morning 65 + 18 scholars, evening 87 + 18 scholars     Services in Welsh     Edward T Evans, Incumbent
     
    Ebenezer, Calvinistic Methodist              Erected 1814              Attendance - morning 87 scholars, afternoon 155, evening 158        William Williams, Deacon, Tai Newyddion
    Zion, Wesleyan Methodist               Erected 1857      Not a separate building         Attendance - morning 41 scholars, afternoon 73, evening 66           Michael Powell, Manager, Llwyn Helyg
    Tabernacle, Particular Baptist          Erected 1835            Attendance - morning 130, afternoon 162 scholars, evening 190               John Griffiths, Minister

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Llandudno/index.html#ChurchHistory


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[jdela]

Gadget and Everyone,
Yes, I have done some research on Ancestry, but was never sure I had the right people for a lot of the info. I thought that my great-grandfather came from Holyhead from info found on Ancestry and your information points to that being correct. It was surprising to me to see how early the family came to the U.S. I know my grandfather, Hugh Joel, returned to Wales, but not sure when. How could I find where he and his father lived? (actual addresses). Thank you so much everyone!

[Gadget]

Hi Judy 

Hugh Joel appeared on the WW1 draft card listing, so was likely bac in the USA at that time.   I've not checked for his father or for the family on the 1911 census. Unfortunately, we can't give info from that census but you could check the family on one of the various 1911 census sites.

I'm not the best person to search for your ancestors today as I've been travelling and am now feeling very  weary. I'll check things tomorrow but Liz or Suz or others may also find info for you in the mean time.


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[suzard]

The most likely for Hugh Joel's mother in 1861 - Bedwellty

? Row, Bedwellty, Rumney
RG9/4002/22/13
Richard Bryn, 35, coal miner, b. Glamorgan, Britonferry
Margaret, wife, 31, b. do, Gelligaer
William, son, 11, b. Mon, Llangynidr * (*Breconshire really)
Elizabeth, dau, 8 mths, b. do, Bedwellty

In 1880 this family are in Vienna, Trumbull, Ohio


Note surname seems to be Bryn not Bryan.


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Think this address is "Price's Row" Rumney present day =Rhymney

Suz

[jdela]

Thank you all so much!

[Gadget]

Think this address is "Price's Row" Rumney present day =Rhymney

Suz

Thanks Suz - I couldn't get it large enough on my laptop.   I knew it was Rhymney but typed/transcribed it as Rumney because that's what it said - funny that it was written then how it is pronounced 

While we're doing corrections  -  your Bryn Neurig? in Colwyn Bay  in Reply #3  is Bryn Meurig.

Judy - What other addresses do you want?


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[Gadget]

The location of Bryn Meurig, Gove Park, Colwyn Bay , where they were staying in 1901, is indicated  on this map:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0v2e/

I'm not sure which house it would be but that's the street. The Post Code finder doesn't list it as a house name - just numbers!

Added - if you put Bryn Meurig, Colwyn Bay into Google, you'll get a post code.

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[Gadget]

Henry Morris, Hugh's father,  died in  March 1902 and was buried in Llandudno. Address given was same as 1901.

GRO Reg ref is:

Henry Morris, March q, 1902, Conway, vol 11b page 375. He was 46.


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Added - you might be able to find where he was buried - http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=7974&doc=1210    contact detail are given after you clear the Cookie warnings!


Also, http://sleepinggardens.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/cemeteries-of-world-great-orme.html

[jdela]

Good Morning from Ohio, U.S.A.!
Has anyone found any marriage documents for Hugh Joel Morris while he was still in Wales? Have not had any luck with this, but I know he was married once before marrying my grandmother, Gwendolyn. Also at a complete roadblock finding any information on Gwendolyn. I know she was born in Wales, but that's about it. Have found some ship registers that may have been her on her trip to the states, but nothing concrete.