William Wilson of Eastwood Nottingham

[suzard]

It looks to me like Alice Mabel Wilson had an illegitimate son William Wilson
She then married George Herbert Teather - but it seems George Teather never gave William his name.

This looks like William in 1901 census

Raglan St Hill Top Eastwood Notts
Edward Limb Head M 43 Coal Miner Eastwood Notts
Elizabeth wife M 44 Greasley Notts
James Wilson son single 22 Coal Miner Hewer Eastwood
Daisy Limb daughter 14 Eastwood
Louisa Limb daughter 12 Eastwood
Elizabeth L Limb daughter 10 Eastwood
Dennis? Limb son 7 Hill Top
Hilda Limb daughter 2 Hill Top
WILLIAM WILSON grandson 1 Hill Top
RG13 3143 83 11

This is the Limb/Wilson family in 1891

1891
Walkers Row Codnor Derbys
Ed Limb Head M 33 Coal Miner Eastwood Notts
Elizabeth wife 34 Greasley
Esther  Wilson stepdaughter 17 Works in Leather Works Greasley Notts
Ada Wilson step daughter 15 Works at Pottery Greasley
James Wilson stepson 12 Eastwood
Ann Wilson stepdaughter 10 Eastwood
ALICE MABEL WILSON stepdaughter 8 Eastwood
Daisy Limb daughter 4 Eastwood
Louisa Limb daughter 1 Eastwood
RG12 2659 8 9

There is a marriage FreeBMD
Dec qtr 1900
Basford
on same page
George Teather
Alice Wilson
7b 427

I think George's fiull name was George Herbert Teather
and Alice's was Alice Mabel Wilson

1901
Queen St Eastwood Notts
Ellen Cooke Head widow 48 Strelley Notts
GEORGE H TEATHER son married 20 Coal Miner Eastwood
MABEL A TEATHER daughter in law married 18 Eastwood Notts
Fanny E Teather infant 2mths Hill Top Easytwood
James Greenhalgh Lodger 48 Wheelwright Perry barr
RG13 3144 141 469

So it seems to me (you really need "key" certificates to prove/disprove)
Alice Mabel Wilson had an illegitimate son William Wilson
possibly the father was George Herbert Teather - or at least Alice's family thought he was
Alice married George Teather late 1900 and at the time of the 1901 census she was living with George and his widowed mother (who must have remarried as her name was Cooke - or George was illegit -more research needed on that) and they had a 2month old daughter Fanny E Teather.
So Alice's son William Wilson was with his grandparents while Alice nursed the new baby.

Here's another complication

Alice Mabel Wilson was the daughter of George Wilson & Elizabeth (haven't checked for her maiden name)
1881
17 Scargill St Eastwood Notts
George Wilson Head M 32 Coal Miner Kimberley Notts
Elizabeth wife 25 Beverley (Think this should be Begerlee) Notts
Ether daughter 7 Greasley
Ada daughter 5 Greasley
James son 2 Eastwood
Ann daughter 7mths Eastwood

and living next door

at no 16
William Limb Head U 28 Coal Miner Eastwood
EDWARD LIMB brother U 24 Coal Miner Eastwood
Sarah Limb sister U 21 Eastwood
Eliza A Limb sister U 18 Eastwood
RG11 3321 28 44

Death reg  FreeBMD
George Wilson
age 34
Dec qtr 1882
Basford
7b 6c

so it looks like Alice Mabel was very young when her father died - then her Mum married Edward Limb -the next door neighbour.

It looks like George Teather never gave William Wison his name (George and Alice had more children together) and William Wilson was reared by his Grandmother and step grandfather  Edward Limb & Elizabeth
To complicate matters further William Wilson was later described  as a son of his grandparents and his name given as "William Limb" !!!!!!!

As I have stated you do need key certificates to confirm/deny

Just an afterthought - if you are thinking this is too complicated- I have a Limb in my family - he married a two times bigamist (she became a pillar of the community and was never "found out" in her lifetime) "my" Limb was her last husband and the family thought he was her brother !!!!!!
She had children in various names - one of them died 20 years ago and family visited her but thought she was an Aunt not a sister!!!!!!!


If you need anymore look ups just give a shout

(My music teacher was a George Teather - I'll see if he is related!!!!

Suz

[iluleah]

William Wilson  46, of 267 Nottingham Road, Hill Top, Eastwood. William died  on 22nd October 1946,  Fall of roof at Babbington pit.
The inquest was held on 25th October 1946 at the Colliers Arms Inn, Cinderhill.

[iluleah]

........and photographs of Babbington pit http://www.healeyhero.co.uk/rescue/Collection/shane/bab.htm

and some history http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Pioneer-owner-North-died-57-poverty/story-12242592-detail/story.html#axzz2YG1SAt7B

[suzard]

William Wilson  46, of 267 Nottingham Road, Hill Top, Eastwood. William died  on 22nd October 1946,  Fall of roof at Babbington pit.
The inquest was held on 25th October 1946 at the Colliers Arms Inn, Cinderhill.

The Colliers Arms was situated near the entrance to Babbington Pit - it was an Art Deco style building - only really used by miners .
I was taken to Babbington pit  to see the Nurse in 1960's and was quarantined there (until someone could fetch me home)when I was diagnosed as having German Measles !!!!

The Music Teacher I mentioned in a previous post was George Hubert/Herbert Teather b.c. 1901 Eastwood died 1965/6. He was a coal miner but also gave piano & singing lessons. Wonder if he was related to your Teathers???

Suz

[iluleah]

One of the 'lost pubs' now The Colliers Arms at Cinderhill was burnt down whilst awaiting demolition.... according to the lost pubs website and very possibly because of the lack of use as babbington pits entrance 'moved' to Hucknall ( I think)

[suzard]

The Colliers Arms was very very run down for many years -and I think was closed years before demolition.

By "the entrance moved to Hucknall - I assume you mean the coal was got from Babbington from  Hucknall shaft

So sad the disappearance of the collieries -and the  disappearance of the community life

Suz

[iluleah]

The Colliers Arms was very very run down for many years -and I think was closed years before demolition.

By "the entrance moved to Hucknall - I assume you mean the coal was got from Babbington from  Hucknall shaft

So sad the disappearance of the collieries -and the  disappearance of the community life

Suz

Yes that is what I mean....... I didn't explain too well did I

I lived in the area for about 20 years and yes saw many pits close ..in Eastwood alone 40% of the men worked in the pit and most of the villages which were all built as pit villages and  even 100 years after the pit had closed the majority who lived there were mining families.
The 1980s was a very difficult, and VERY dangerous time for ALL the community regardless of if you were from a mining family or not ( I'm not) while Notts miners worked down the road in Yorkshire they were striking, but Notts miners knew if they stopped all the pits in Notts would close.

In the villages we were sealed off by police, you had to prove you lived there to drive in, but the M1 runs though and on many occassions  (lets say) raids were carried out on the community, we woke up to damaged cars, broken windows and paint everywhere, we even had police escorts to take our children to school ( and unfortunately needed it)....... so that is where my head went to when I was writing it.

[suzard]

I lived through those times too -although for the second strike we were in S Wales - the hardship endured was unbelievable -am still in a local mining community today - although the children don't know what a coal fire is never mind a colliery -  but better not go on -this isn't helping with the search for William Wilson/Teather/Limb !!!!

Hope the research is correct???

Suz

[iluleah]

Hi,

Can anyone help me find the birth parents of William Wilson born 1900 (Nottinghashire?).  He died in a coal mining accident on 22nd October 1946 in Cinderhill Nottinghamshire.  The rumour is, he should have been born as "Teather".  He lived in Eastwood Nottinghamshire for many years.

http://eastmidlandsgenealogy.com/#/notts-coverage/4534966681 joining is free they have
Eastwood Baptisms 1711 to 1849
Eastwood Marriages 1711 to 1900........ hopefully if his parents were Eastwood people you will find them here
Eastwood Burials 1711 to 1880