Matthew SLATER/ Jean KING

[MonicaL]

Lucky it was in 1855 and all the extra info that may provide  Odd that Jane shows under Slater rather than King https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ42-4SH as is the norm....but at this stage we are happy with all the new info for sure 

Monica

[Millmoor]

Margaret died 21 March 1856. Presumably that is the Helen in the death notice who Jonn has given the birth for.

Now struggling to see them in 1861 census!

William

[MonicaL]

You have prompted me to look again at that birth/death notice you found earlier, William. Using the address given for Baby Helen, I think this is James Wilson, with what looks like a previous wife/family at the same address...might help with further searches for James with Jean King.

From 1851:

James Wilson 51, Hand Loom Weaver (cotton) b. Paisley
Mary Wilson 51
Thomas Wilson 20
Charles Wilson 16
Agnes Wilson 14
John Wilson 12
Jessie Wilson 10

Address: 5 Sir Michael St, Paisley High Church

Monica

[MonicaL]

OK, this looks like the 1861 census entry we need (as transcribed, with the usual mis-transcription!):

James Wilson 60, shawl weaver
Jean Wilson 59
Elizabeath Stater 15 Stepdaughter, Steam Loom Weaver...so here is Elizabeth!
Isbella King 10, niece (will help further with Jean King's family)
Christian Campbell 25 lodger, Cotton Trieel (as transcribed) Factory
Jean King Campbell 4 Months lodger's daughter https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ42-K6T
John Campbell 15 lodger

Address: 5 Sir Michael St, Paisley

Monica

[Millmoor]

You beat me to it Monica. Using the ages in 1861 for James and Jean ( Jane) cannot see them in 1871!

William

[MonicaL]

Me too so far  Struggling also with a death for Jean, with a good peppering on wild cards for spellings and variants.

Just realised also, baby Helen must have died pre 1861? She doesn't show in the household entry at Sir Michael Street does she? Also, think Jean King/Slater/Wilson looks a tad older that she should be in 1861. From her age then born 1802 rather than c. 1815 or so we had earlier.

Another thought, with not finding easily a death for her post 1861....could the Jane NILSON, living with Elizabeth and Matthew GUY in Clinton, MASS, USA be a mistrascription of Jane WILSON? That Jane showed as aged 56 in 1870, so age would fit with what we had seen on earlier census, except that 1861 entry.

Hopefully that Guy/Slater Glasgow marriage details might help further.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Not a betting girl  but I would put money on this being WILSON rather than NILSON in 1870 in the Matthew and Elizabeth GUY houshold in Clinton.

[Millmoor]

Helen was presumably the Helen I posted in the death notice from the newsapaper and so also died in 1856.

Cant check for a death for Jane Wilson in Mass as Family Search. For some reason getting a  blank page when it says it is giving me results.

William

[MonicaL]

I haven't been able to find a death for her either  Been checking a database called Massachusetts, Death Records, 1841-1915 which includes also images but nothing showing.

Did try to search yesterday for a shipping manifest for the Guys and Jane 'NILSON' but failed so not sure what port they may have arrived at. From one of their census entries, their migration year was given as 1868 which fitted well with the birth years of their children.

Sorry William, missed the fact that the newspaper mention was also a death for Baby Helen, alongside Margaret Slater's death notice around the same time.

Monica