Charles Ford Cope - b 1908

[Deborah C]

Hi

I am looking for a Charles Ford Cope and have found the birth record for him (Belper 7B 738) but don't know which parish he was born in. I have found 2 possible candidates in the 1911 Census records.

Challes F Cope B1908 living and born in Ironville
Charles Cope B1908 living and born in New Westwood, Jacksdale

In both entries, the Father is William Cope.

My instinct is to go for the one born in Ironville, not only because of the inclusion of the middle initial, but also because Ironville is in the Belper Reg District, (Jacksdale is in Basford dist) but as the 2 parishes are so close together and I have no other information to work with, I would rather rule the other one out first.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You
Deborah Cope

[lizdb]

Could be a far reaching error, if you go for the wrong one - you will end up putting a lot of time, effort and money into a tree that is actually complete rubbish.

So better to take a bit of time now, to try and get the right one!
Some ideas that might be worth pursuing:

Does 'your' Charles marry? If so who are the witnesses? Are either of them possibly a sibling? If so, does that tie up with siblings of either Charles from 1911 .
Can you find the marriage for both the Williams from 1911? Does either by chance marry a Ford? If so, then they are more likely to have given Ford as a middle name to their son.
Did either William leave a Will? If so it might mention son or grandchildren, and you can see if either ties in with what you know of the correct Charles
When (if) your Charles marries, what address is he living at? Who knows, might still be the address he was at as a child in1911

I am sure there are other lines of enquiry you could pursue that I havent immediately thought of.
But I am sure with some rooting around, and looking at other members of Charles family, you will find something that either confirms one to be correct, or rules the other out. And, as I said to start with, in my very humble opinion, it is well worth waiting till that happens before moving on!

[lizdb]

Another one -

What occupation does your Charles give for his father,on his marriage cert?
Does that tie up with the occupation of either William on 1911?



PS - must admit, I cant see either of the ones you mention on 1911.

[lizdb]

The first one - indexed Challe F Cope appears to be living in  Selston Nottingham

[Dizzifish]

Hello.....

These may help to track your family.

Marriage at Christ Church, Ironville, Derbyshire - 22nd July 1905 by Banns

William COPE, bachelor, aged 35 yrs - Bricklayer's Labourer of 23 King William St, Ironville
father = Joseph Cope (dec'd), Engine Driver
& Charlotte Hannah POLLARD, spinster, aged 20 yrs - of 5 Lime Kiln Row
Father = Charles Ford Pollard (dec'd), Miner
groom made his mark X - bride signed
Witnesses -= Richard Pollard & Sarah Ann Pollard
~ ~ ~

Baptisms at Ironville

29 Apr 1906 - Joseph Cope - parents = William & Charlotte Hannah - 9 Albert Street, Bricklayer's Labourer

23 Jan 1908 - Charles Ford COPE - parents = William & Charlotte Hannah - 10 Meadow Street, Miner

25 Aug 1909 - Ernest Cope - William & Charlotte -  25 King William Street, Labourer


There are some Ironville baptism & marriages here.... http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vhq/


Lizdb is right and the family are in Selston by 1911

[lizdb]

All sorted !!

[trish1120]

1891 Census Charlotte H Pollard is mistranscribed a ARDETH A Pollard born 1885 Langley Mill, Derbyshire.

1881 Census Charles Ford P and Wife Elizabeth nee MORTON are newly Married. With them is LEWIS Pollard, CF's Father born c 1824 Eastwood, Notts

1871 Census
Crowfields,
Codnor and Loscoe, Derbyshire
RG10/3476/22/36
Louis POLLARD, 45, Head, Widower, Labourer
Sarah A, 18, Daug, Unm
CHARLES, 10, Son, Scholar
Valetta, 11, Daug, Scholar
All born Eastwood, Nottinghamshire

1861 Census
Eastwood, Nottinghamshire
RG9/2341/102/32
Lewis POLLARD, 37, Head, Mar, Banksman at Colliery
Elizabeth, 36, Wife, Mar, (looks like born Malta, British Subject, she may also be 26 not 36)
Harriet, 10, Daug
Sarah A, 7, Daug
Valetta, 1
All but Elizabeth born Eastwood, Notts

Trish

[trish1120]

Be careful as Elizabeth may be a second Wife for Lewis;

Christening Familysearch.Org;
MARY JULIA Pollard, 04 July 1858, Eastwood, Nottinghamshire
Parents LEWIS/MARY

Birth Reg on FreeBMD 1858 and Death Reg for same name Dec 1858

[allibaker]

julia mary pollard infant buried 5th dec 1858 st mary eastwood nottinghamshire
mary pollard aged 33yrs also buried st mary eastwood on 10th april 1859
regards
alli