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How to find a RE Registered Birth COMPLETE WITH THANKS
« on: Sunday 28 July 13 14:05 BST (UK) »
Hi All,
Recently on Heir Hunters they found a birth entry for someone whos birth had been re registered. I have baptism dates for a member of my family but no registered birth ( after several wrong birth certificates ordered ) So I don't think her birth was ever registered, possibly would she have need to show a birth certificate when she re married in 1930 or for any other event and if she registered her birth where would it be? would it be registered in the year she applied for it or the original birth year of 1867?
Any help most appreciated.
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Re: How to find a RE Registered Birth
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 July 13 14:15 BST (UK) »
You don't need a birth certificate to get married.
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Re: How to find a RE Registered Birth
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 July 13 14:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks Stan, well if not for that reason she may have needed it for something else, if so how would it be indexed? the year of her birth or the year she registered it?
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Re: How to find a RE Registered Birth
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 July 13 15:05 BST (UK) »
Have a look at this tutorial especially columns 8 & 10, it should help

http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/births.htm
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.


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Re: How to find a RE Registered Birth
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 July 13 15:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you, well worth a look, very interesting, just wish she didn't have such a common name. :)
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Re: How to find a RE Registered Birth
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 July 13 18:51 BST (UK) »
Birth certs. weren't needed for anything else other than to prove you existed.
The lack of one often points to an illegitimacy which often went unrecorded.
A birth may be registered the following year if the event happened in December & the birth was registered in the 1st. Q of the following year.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
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Re: How to find a RE Registered Birth
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 July 13 18:59 BST (UK) »
A couple of points:

It says on a Birth Certificate-
Warning: A Certificate is not evidence of identity


Secondly, maybe the baptism took place a few years after her birth?
So you could be looking for a registration some years earlier?


Finally, it wasn't illegal to not register a birth until 1874!
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Re: How to find a RE Registered Birth
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 July 13 20:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks All,
She may well have been illegitimate as no marriage for parents has been found so no mothers surname found, middle child of several children, all baptised no birth registered, birth consistent on census and father and his occupation consistent. Looks like we shall never find mothers surname. :'(
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Re: How to find a RE Registered Birth
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 July 13 21:34 BST (UK) »

Finally, it wasn't illegal to not register a birth until 1874!

That is not strictly correct, there was no penalty for not registering a birth until the 1874 Act, by the 1836 Act parents were only legally obliged to inform a registrar of the details of a birth if the registrar demanded them , but if registered after 42 days the person requiring the birth to be registered had to pay the superintendent-registrar 2s. 6d. and the registrar 5s. as both had to be present, so there was a financial incentive to register the birth within 42 days. Reading the other sections of the 1836 Act it seems the intention was for the registration of births and deaths to be compulsory.
See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,635265.msg4827179.html#msg4827179
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