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hi ive not been able to find my gr grandfather on the 1861  census

story so far

birth 1846 william roscow(e) scowcroft son of mary nee Roscowe and samuel Scowcroft

on the 1851 hes living with uncle lawrence Roscow and aunt Ellen Roscow

in 1861 hes missing - both uncle and aunt have got married by then - lawrence is on his own just him and wife so hes not there -
aunt ellens marriage

Marriage: 19 Feb 1857 Holy Trinity, Bolton, Lancashire, England
John Horsfield - 42, Schoolmaster, Widower, Deane, Rumworth
Ellen Roscow - 34, Spinster, Rose Hill Gt Bolton
    Groom's Father: James Horsfield, Spinner
    Bride's Father: Baxter Roscow, Flag Stone Merchant
    Witness: George Betsworth; Hannah Holden
    Married by: Joseph Lowe Incumbant
    Register: Marriages 1857 - 1862, Page 2, Entry 3
    Source: LDS Film 1966125

now i cannot find this couple on the 1861 either !!! so maye they are all togehter ??

everything is nice and dandy after 1870 as he get married and 1871, onwards hes traceable with wife but becasue he has the double barrelled name its casued havoc trying to find him

im wonerinf if he travelled with aunt and uncle and maybe they moved on as i cant find anything for the Horsefield couple at all - maybe im missing something but any help appreciated - he did travel to Amercia a lot later in life and they had servants but i cannot find the Horsfileds having any children been looking for a whle any help apprecaite

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Re: help finding my elusive gt grandfather missing years Bolton area or abroad
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 August 13 13:57 BST (UK) »
just thought i would add -Ellens birth place is Haslindgen - not sure about Johns thought could be Bolton

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Re: help finding my elusive gt grandfather missing years Bolton area or abroad
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 August 13 14:15 BST (UK) »
Hello There.....

I haven't found your William Scowcroft yet, bur I think this is his aunt Ellen in 1861....

Deane Village, Rumworth, Lancashire

John Horsfield / Head / age 46 / National School Master and Parish Clerk/ Born Manchester
Ellen Horsfield / wife / age 38 / Born Haslingdon, Lancashire
Arthur Ros. Horsfield / son / age 2 / born Rumworth.

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Re: help finding my elusive gt grandfather missing years Bolton area or abroad
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 August 13 16:47 BST (UK) »
I don't know if you have Williams's marr cert but here's  link to it. It mentions that one of the witnesses was LOUISA SCOWCROFT. Maybe try and find her? ;


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159376-752645-77?cc=1788853&wc=M9QK-PDJ:n634146203


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Re: help finding my elusive gt grandfather missing years Bolton area or abroad
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 August 13 16:59 BST (UK) »
oh yes - i do have a few  louisa scowcrofts  in the tree and one is his siter his sister  i suppose he could be anywhere - but i was thinking maybe abroad i ahve been looking for it for over a year tried a few different thing but cant find

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Re: help finding my elusive gt grandfather missing years Bolton area or abroad
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 August 13 17:11 BST (UK) »
Here in 1861 is SAMUEL and MARY, no sign of William BUT THERE IS A LAWRENCE AND A LOUISA. Is this the correct family?

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/CensusShowPhotoImageServlet?fs=1&censusYear=1861&docId=28260000135_9_0

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Re: help finding my elusive gt grandfather missing years Bolton area or abroad
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 August 13 17:14 BST (UK) »
thanks ill have a look - thanks for the info on the horsfileds ive just got sidetracked as i found something on williams grandfather Baxter which was very interesting as i was looking at this and  i have now got sidetracked

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Re: help finding my elusive gt grandfather missing years Bolton area or abroad
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 August 13 17:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Again.

I wonder if this is your William.

William Scowcroft
Number 709
Rank Private
Unit 109th Foot (Bombay Infantry)
Stationed Kurrachee, East India (1862)

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Re: help finding my elusive gt grandfather missing years Bolton area or abroad
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 August 13 17:33 BST (UK) »
thanks Jennie - how do i find more info on that?  he would have been 16 - obvioulsy there are several william Scowcrofts around but only one william roscoe - he was obviously away for a few years doing something maybe your on the right track with that - how can find more on it ?