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*COMPLETED* Cumberland /Colston
« on: Thursday 08 August 13 12:12 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth (Colston)  born Leicester d 1879 Saxe Coburg Street, Leicester
married I think 1833 St Martin's Church, Leicester to
John Cumberland b 1802 Leicester d 1889 Saxe Coburg Street, Leicester

They are in Saxe Coburg Street, Leicester 1871 and 1881 census and spent some time in London as they had children born in London 1836-1852 (Elizabeth, Martha, Arthur)

Any chance of a look up for baps (parents names) , marriage to confirm approx date and burial, also where in London 1841,( https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MQYP-4ZB ??? maybe? )1851, 1861 census?

Thank you
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 August 13 12:45 BST (UK) »
Hi,

This looks like the family in 1841 living at St Martin, Leicestershire


Peter Colston 60 hosier, born in county
Dorothy Colston 60
Mary Colston 22 born in county
Martha Colston 21 born in county
Elizabeth Cumberland 30 born in county
John Cumberland 6
Bakewell Cumberland 1
Harriett Greg 30
Emma Smith 25
Sarah Carpenter 22

All others not born in county

HO107/605/6

Sharon
 
 
 
Fagan/England/Ireland
Aldridge/London
Sills/London/Kent
Hartwell/London
Salkeld/Cumberland/Northumberland
Robinson/London
Stewart/Ireland/Scotland/England

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 August 13 13:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you Sharon

That certainly looks like them, along with 'Bakewell' another name in their 'family lines' that keep occuring....it also gives me other clues and answers her baptism date too.
That whole side of the family were into hosiery, they seem to marry into other hosiery manufacturing families which all lived in that area of Leicester which was then and still has to some degree  hosiery manufacturing although certainly not as much as I am sure it was back then.

So it confirms the parents of her and she was bap in St. Margarets, Leicester 24 August 1812
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 August 13 13:20 BST (UK) »


Here they are in 1861 :   

1861 census :
RG9/136; Folio 84, Page 8

Middlesex. Islington
29, Tufnell Park Road

John Cumberland, h, mar,  59, Hosier Master, b. Leics, Leicester
Elizabeth, wife, 49, b. Leics, Leicester
Martha, dau, 19, b. Middlesex, Finsbury
Mary Mason, serv, 38, unm, Housemaid, b. Leics, Normanton

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 August 13 13:35 BST (UK) »



1851 census :
HO107/1500, Folio 568, Page 10

Middlesex, Finsbury
Upper Holloway
6, Belgrave Place, Tufnell Pk

John Cumberland, h. mar, 49, Hosier, b. Leicester
Elizabeth, wife, 39, b. Leicester
Martha, dau, 9, b. Islington, Middlesex
Alfred, son, 1, b. Holloway,
Hannah Hill, unm, 29, Housemaid, b. Leicester
Eliza Peters, unm, 30, Housemaid, b. Hampstead, Middlesex
Mary Mason, unm, 26, Housemaid, b. Leics, Normanton


They are in Saxe Coburg Street, Leicester 1871 and 1881 census and spent some time in London as they had children born in London 1836-1852 (Elizabeth, Martha, Arthur)


It definitely says Alfred ?
   
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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 August 13 13:40 BST (UK) »
Thank you Pels

Quote
It definitely says Alfred ?

I will double check I think Authur was born 4Q 1851 while (new for me) Alfred 1Q 1850 and can't find  'Bakewell' who I find was Robert Bakewell registered , so I think /looks like several children died
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 August 13 13:57 BST (UK) »



Good news !  :)

In 1861, an eleven year old Alfred Cumberland was a Scholar at the Grammar School in Guilsborough, Northamptonshire :

RG9/948, Folio 3, Page 1

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 August 13 14:02 BST (UK) »
They certainly had some money then to send children away to school... these branch lines I am now researching  are turning out to be hosiery manufacturers, several who send their children to Northamps private schools... nice as I am also finding Wills for some of those I am now researching
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 August 13 14:08 BST (UK) »
Daughter Elizabeth who married Joseph Hames is she with him in 1861 60 New Walk, Leicester St Margaret, Leicestershire?  They married in 1855 should also be Elizabeth, John and Mary by 1861
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend