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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 08 August 13 21:41 BST (UK) »
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 08 August 13 21:44 BST (UK) »
Oooooh

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5951527?searchTerm=robert%20bakewell%20cumberland&searchLimits=

John's marriage mentions John Cumberland Leicester, it is the marriage above, Ann is a widow

did you see the they later include Colston in their names?

Did Robert go to Australia, train or was a doctor then came back to England?

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60564049?searchTerm=robert%20bakewell%20cumberland&searchLimits=

one Robert also dies Australia 1892


Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
Name:    R B Cumberland
Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1842
Age:    18
Arrival Date:    13 Sep 1860
Arrival Port:    Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port:    London
Ship:    Moravian
Nationality:    British
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 08 August 13 21:58 BST (UK) »
And...

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 Esquire
Name:    R B Cumberland Esquire
Arrival Date:    Jan 1863
Arrival Port:    Port Phillip Bay, Australia
Departure Port:    London
Ship:    Otago
Nationality:    English


AND
This is the one who dies in Devon I think as wife is Lydia in the probate online

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name:    Robert B Cumberland
Spouse Name:    Lydia Pattrick
Marriage Date:    1847
Marriage Place:    New South Wales
Registration Place:    Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year:    1847
Volume Number:    V C

so John's Robert Bakewell stayed in Australia or at least you have a date he was still there 1879. Wondering if the other is a relative of John Cumberland snr
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 08 August 13 22:04 BST (UK) »
Trove is brilliant

R B Cumberland Esq... a soldier in the Bengal army

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/689455?searchTerm=lydia%20pattrick&searchLimits=
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 08 August 13 22:07 BST (UK) »
Trove is brilliant

R B Cumberland Esq... a soldier in the Bengal army

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/689455?searchTerm=lydia%20pattrick&searchLimits=

Change quote Willsy Brilliant
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 08 August 13 22:12 BST (UK) »
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 08 August 13 22:18 BST (UK) »
Here he is after Australia, Family Search
1871
Name:    Robert B Cumberland
Event Type:    Census
Registration District:    Crediton
Sub-District:    Crediton
Parish:    Crediton
County:    Devonshire
     Household    Gender    Age    Birthplace
Self    Robert B Cumberland    M    67    Leicester, Leicestershire
Wife    Lydia Cumberland    F    48    Walton On The Hayscastle, Essex
Daughter    Lydia E Cumberland    F    15    Australia, Ryde New South Wales
Daughter    Adela Cumberland    F    14    Australia, Sydney
Daughter    Edith F Cumberland    F    12    Australia, Five Dock New South Wales
Daughter    Amy M Cumberland    F    10    Australia, Five Dock New South Wales
Servant    Elizabeth Rubber    F    21    Crediton, Devonshire
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 08 August 13 22:24 BST (UK) »
Yep, death notice for Robert Bakewell there 1892

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/8405587?searchTerm=robert%20bakewell%20cumberland&searchLimits=

Colston added, wife Ann P. P.
Sorry I seem to have been long winded getting there, only the tree for John's Robert Bakewell has him dying in England 1877 and I wanted to double check all round as there wasn't an age on the probate
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Cumberland /Colston
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 08 August 13 22:33 BST (UK) »
Here he is after Australia, Family Search
1871
Name:    Robert B Cumberland
Event Type:    Census
Registration District:    Crediton
Sub-District:    Crediton
Parish:    Crediton
County:    Devonshire
     Household    Gender    Age    Birthplace
Self    Robert B Cumberland    M    67    Leicester, Leicestershire
Wife    Lydia Cumberland    F    48    Walton On The Hayscastle, Essex
Daughter    Lydia E Cumberland    F    15    Australia, Ryde New South Wales
Daughter    Adela Cumberland    F    14    Australia, Sydney
Daughter    Edith F Cumberland    F    12    Australia, Five Dock New South Wales
Daughter    Amy M Cumberland    F    10    Australia, Five Dock New South Wales
Servant    Elizabeth Rubber    F    21    Crediton, Devonshire

I think you have gone back another generation, with this Robert B Cumberland /Lydia, as in John's brother rather than John's son Robert Bakewell Cumberland who was born in 1840 and his elder brother another John born 1835 went to Oz, so presumerably because his Uncle was there
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend