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Re: Wedding and baptism records
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 18 August 13 11:31 BST (UK) »
sorry, forgot to put that. The marriage is on FreeReg, the Llansawel marriages are on there, but baptisms and burials have not yet been transcribed.

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After Hardwicke's Marriage Act until civil registration began in 1837, all marriages had to be in a parish church to be legal, the only exceptions being for Jews and Quakers. From civil registration (1/7/1837), marriages could take place in churches in other denominations as long as a registrar was present. Another act in 1898 allowed for the appointment of an authorised person to be present instead of the registrar, giving non-conformist churches including Roman Catholics the same rights as the established church, Jews and Quakers.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details?Uri=C13367
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Wedding and baptism records
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 18 August 13 14:22 BST (UK) »
have you considered that patronymics were still in use in the area at the time?
Bear with me on this one. I found a Timothy Jonathan in Llansawel in 1841, a butcher like Joseph. I checked 1851 for more accurate ages and place of birth
Hamlet y Genol, Llansawel HO107/2471 folio 15 pg 4
Timothy Jonathan head widower 33 butcher
Anne dau 8
Sarah sister 22
all born Llansawel

I'd found a baptism for Joseph & Anne's youngest son, James, but thought it odd there weren't ones for the other children. I couldn't find a baptism for Timothy Jonathan, but I did find one in 1817 for Timothy Timothy son of Joseph & Anne, so I checked for the other children and found to the same parents
Benjamin Timothy bp 8/12/1835
Joseph Timothy bp 10/4/1833
William Timothy bp 26/1/1831
Jonathan Timothy bp 7/7/1828
Sarah Timothy bp 30/4/1826
Thomas Timothy bp 2/2/1824
Mary Timothy bp 9/9/1821
Jane Timothy bp 8/8/1819
Ann Timothy bp 23/3/1815
David Timothy bp 10/11/1813
Which gets us back to the marriage of Joseph Timothy & Anne Evans in Llansawel 25/6/1813 by licence. There's the marriage of Jonathan Timothy & Anne Morgan in Llansawel 17/12/1782 as possible parents for Joseph. An Anne Jonathan, widow, aged 84 was buried 17/11/1836, abode given as Trehelig which is where Timothy Jonathan and his family were living in 1841. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/history/sites/themes/society/family_03_welshnaming.shtml
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Wedding and baptism records
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 18 August 13 15:12 BST (UK) »
Osprey. The second thanks from me today.