Author Topic: Hardiment of Wicklewood  (Read 6832 times)

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Re: Hardiment of Wicklewood
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 23 February 14 10:16 GMT (UK) »
It's perfectly possible! Can't see her at a glance, (I have 3 A1 pages covered with names!) What is the line back from Blanche?

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Re: Hardiment of Wicklewood
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 23 February 14 10:45 GMT (UK) »
Working back from:

Robert          - Rebecca Heron
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Robert 1766 - Lydia Blazey
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Robert 1796 - Mary Hubbard
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William 1829 - Sarah Daniels
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John 1849    - Mary Palmer
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               Blanche


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Re: Hardiment of Wicklewood
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 23 February 14 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Ah, interesting!

My tree lists a John William who marries Mary Ann (No surname) and their only child is listed as 'William E.' b.1880 with a possible marriage in 1903.

Does this perhaps mean that we can fill in some gaps for each other? :)

I wonder if you might also have the Chronicle reports of Johnson and Hardiment's executions?

Sorry to keep interrupting your holiday of course!

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Re: Hardiment of Wicklewood
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 23 February 14 21:45 GMT (UK) »
P.S My John in that line is listed as b.2/4/1850 and bapt. 07/07/1850, although I have yet to check the records!


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Re: Hardiment of Wicklewood
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 23 February 14 22:23 GMT (UK) »
The info I have access to via my mobile phone is limited but I can give you this much:


John 1849-1922 married Mary Palmer
 1858-1931

Their children were:

William 1881-1961 m Catherine Thacker in 1904
Alice 1884-1951 m George Robotham in 1904
Albert Bertie 1888-1917 died at Flanders
Blanche 1898-1949 m Harry Harrison 1917 Blanche & Harry were knocked down by a drunken driver & fatally injured in 1949

I have photographs of all these & can send you copies

Yes, I have all the newspaper reports on the murder & executions, I can send you copies next week - will need an email address of course

Questions for you....

Are you a Norfolk man?
Where does WH the murderer fit into the Hardiment tree?
Who did the tree at UEA and why?

Can't think of a nicer way to have my holiday disturbed!!!!  ;D

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Re: Hardiment of Wicklewood
« Reply #23 on: Monday 24 February 14 13:49 GMT (UK) »
Wonderful! Please send all of the above except for the trials of Johnson, Neale and Hardiment as I have those already.

Jake.hardiment@gmail.com

Have you seen the 'murder map' held by Norfolk records office? It's rather large but I can try send it though to you.

I am a Norfolk boy, born and bred. Very much a Hardiment with my middle names being the most common to appear all the way back to the 1700's! Robert and John, also my father and grandfather's names respectively! Both of them grew up in (East) Dereham and the house my grandad was born in was only demolished a few years back.

The simple answer is that WH simply doesn't fit into the tree and has had the family baffled for twenty years! I've only pucked up the trail properly in the past few days, and mostly need to catch up with the facts presented to me before investigating further, but I assume he's some kin to Robert (1756) who everyone seems to get stuck on.

The sister in the Wicklewood workhouse interests me quite a lot though and might well be the key to finding that next level.

I'm not entirely sure where the UEA student fits in as the people of the generation who would remember can be a little bit shy with information. We've got a bit of a reputation as a secretive bunch. I think it was some kind of module on local history. Perhaps she ran out of time before being able to make WH fit. I'll try to find out her name and hopefully I might be able to get in contact.

I'm based in the Newcastle-upon-Tyne now, we may well be too far apart to meet, but drop me an email and perhaps we can have good catch up on the 'phone.

All best,
Jake