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Search for parents of Sydney Egmont Hill *completed*
« on: Wednesday 21 August 13 03:49 BST (UK) »
Sydney (or sometimes Sidney) Egmont Hill is shown on Electoral Rolls of Stratford and New Plymouth from 1911 to 1960. He married Emma Belinda Gordon 19 Jun 1922 (in NZ) and he died 24 Sep 1960 in New Plymouth, buried at Te Henui, New Plymouth cemetery. Age at death shown as 71, so b. abt 1889, but not found at NZ BDM.

NZ Army Rolls show him, and brother Leonard, enrolling 1917 with father shown as A.J. Hill of Warwick Rd. Stratford. There is no record found at NZ BDM for birth of Leonard either, but younger brothers Ronald b1899, Arthur Leslie b1906 and Lawrence George b1910 are shown there with parents John and Elizabeth.

Family sources say his (Sydney's) father was known as 'John' Hill, and his mother's name 'might' have been Elizabeth, (possibly from births of younger brothers) but no other details are known.

I have been unable to find any records to give further details of his parents, so might have to purchase a marriage printout, but just wondered if any of the bright sparks here could offer any suggestions or leads  ???

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John B



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Re: Search for parents of Sydney Egmont Hill
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 04:48 BST (UK) »
Hi John,

There would appear to be quite an age gap between Sydney (abt. 1889) and Ronald (1899), although there was another child, Frederick, presumably born after Sydney and before Ronald?

Could this be a case of the mother of the later children having been married previously? And those two older boys took the name of her second husband, but were registered under the first married name?

Just tossing ideas around here!

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Re: Search for parents of Sydney Egmont Hill
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 05:07 BST (UK) »
What about this birth?
1889/18970   Anderson   Sydney Egmont    Elizabeth   NR
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: Search for parents of Sydney Egmont Hill
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 05:07 BST (UK) »
Hi John

His WW1 file is at Wellington Archives,maybe a request to have it digitised will shed some light on his parents
AABK 18805 W5541/4  0054808  HILL, Sydney Egmont - WW1 11/2116 - Army1914 1918 Wgtn

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=18048075

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Re: Search for parents of Sydney Egmont Hill
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 05:08 BST (UK) »
Which may fit with this marriage:
1901/5782   Elizabeth   Anderson   John   Hill
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM

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Re: Search for parents of Sydney Egmont Hill
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 06:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Minniehaha,
Thanks for the ideas.

There was apparently more than one   ::) couple with names Elizabeth and John Hill giving birth to children about that time. The only names my friend has given me for their children are Sydney Egmont, Leonard, Roy (?) Ronald, Arthur and Laurie. They suspect there was a sister but have no recollection of her name. The only other clue I have is that they lived in Taranaki, probably Stratford.

Where did you find Frederick?

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Re: Search for parents of Sydney Egmont Hill
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 06:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Twiggy,

That certainly looks promising, and could explain part of the mystery. Now to find what happened to that John and Elizabeth.

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Re: Search for parents of Sydney Egmont Hill
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 06:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks Janette,

Cenotaph shows the next-of-kin as A.J. Hill of Warwick Rd. Stratford. Do you think the Archive file might have more detail? I suppose the only way to find out is to request it and check  8)

I cannot find any A.J. Hill of Warwick Rd. Stratford on Electoral Rolls.

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Re: Search for parents of Sydney Egmont Hill
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 August 13 06:29 BST (UK) »
I guess that looking at the births microfiche, where you could find out where the births were registered, may help you whittle down the possible children to this couple.
...out of, through, and back from New Zealand to the ends of the Earth

FRYER - MITCHELL - DUKE - WHYTE - McDONALD - TAYLOR - CARPENTER - HARRIS - WILLIAMS - CUNNINGHAME - LUCAS - WHITE - BOTHAM - HOLDAWAY - EYLES - OLSEN - CHASE - TRAILL - BAGGS - HASKINS - EDWARDS - CHING - SHIELDS - POLLARD - HOGAN - SMITH - STANLEY - HALL - ROBERTS - LARKHAM