margaret mary davies Who was her mother

[fairlane]

Just to fill in a gap. Elizabeth Ellen Davies married Rowland John Lewis in 1922 in Conway Registration District. 11b 936. He died age 70 in 1942 reg. Conway Apr-May-June quarter 11b 911. Elizabeth E Lewis died 1962 age 74 reg. Conway 8b 144.

Fairlane

[anneelaine]

Hi Thank you so much for that great help.
If i came to conwy could I find out about a child Got no dates, or what sex
 I  was told about one but  she did not no any more about it
 forgot i think  she is in her 90's so its hard work

Thanks
Anneelaine

[fairlane]

This is a very difficult one.
The Margaret Mary Davies birth found by Gadget in Llanrwst in 1908 ties in with another Davies family quite unconnected to yours in 1911 (they have a 2 year old Mary Margaret) so we are back to "where was her birth registered". Without this information it will be quite impossible to get a birth certificate to see who her mother was.

As Gadget says info from other sources shows that Hugh is not the father and Gwilym Iorwerth was 18 and living at home in 1911 (from your original info) so he is unlikely to be Dad so it's back to which of the girls was Mum.

Fairlane

[Gadget]

 

Popping in briefly. I'm so glad that you took this up, Fairlane,  but it looks a bit of a problem.

I'm just wondering if there is anyway that we coulkd prove anything but................


Gadget

[fairlane]

Seems unlikely.  Going back to the other thread "she had to leave the big white house" I wonder if this was one of the girls having to leave service as she was pregnant rather than a reference to leaving home - impossible to verify.

Fairlane

[anneelaine]

I beginning to think it was Jane Anne Davies only because she was having a baby in 1916 and not married and then was cast out of the family
 maybe it was because she had Margaret Mary in 1910!! or there abouts
 As Fairlane said  maybe Jane's second slip up

Anneelaine

[anneelaine]

Hi Just taking a look again at all the info and found some that did not sink in
1901: Bryn Rodyn - Trefriw, Caernarvonshire
RG13 / Piece / 5243 /Folio 66 / Page 6
Head: Owen DAVIES 42, Wheelwright, b Glan Conway, Denbigh
Wife: Catherine DAVIES 44, b Eglwysbach, Denbigh
Son: Hugh DAVIES 18, unm, Wheelwright, b Glan Conway, Denbigh
Dau: Mary C DAVIES 16, b Llanrwst, Denbigh
Dau: Elizabeth E DAVIES 13, b Trefriw, Carnarvon
Dau: Jane A DAVIES 11, b Trefriw, Carnarvon
Son: Gwilym DAVIES 8, b Trefriw, Carnarvon
Dau: Gertrude DAVIES 5, b Trefriw, Carnarvon
Son: Thomas O DAVIES 3, b Trefriw, Carnarvon
They are enumerated 3 households away from the Rectory in Trefriw.
A mary C Davies age 16 1901 so she could be the mother to Margaret? I think do not know how I missed that i will see what i can find now
Sometimes i have to take a rest and re-look
Thanks Anneelaine

[Gadget]

Hi

I did highlight it in my first reply:

On the 1901 at RG13/5243/66/6 Bryn Rodyn, Trefriw,  there are three daughters and one son who could be Margaret's parent:

Owen Davies, hd, 42, wheelwright, bGlan Conway
Catherine Davies, w, 44,b. Eglwysbach
Hugh Davies, s, 18,  wheelwright, b. Glan Conway
Mary C Davies, d, 16, b. Llanrwst
Elizabeth E Davies, 13, b. Trefriw
Jane A Davies, d, 11, b. do
and the younger children

It might be worth you following up these 4 to see if there are any clues. 

Gadget

[anneelaine]

Hi Gadget  it did not sink in thanks  for info looking into it today
Anneelaine