Heartwell

[Beechbaby]

Thank you all for the info.  No wonder I could not find them if they were living with "Taylors" .
 

[Sharon01]

Possible death for first wife Mary A. Heartwell

1866 Ashton under Lyne (8d 334)

Sharon

[Beechbaby]

Thank you Sharon 

[KGarrad]

On the 1861 census (Class:  RG 9; Piece:  2972; Folio:  13; Page:  20), you already have:
John
Mary A
Elizabeth
Alfred
Fred
Joe

But 2 doors away are:
Taylor, Thomas  Head  M  54  Blacker  b Rowarth, Derbyshire
Taylor, Elizabeth  Wife  F  50  b Henfield, Derbyshire
Heartwell, Harriet  Visitor  F  14  b Rowarth

[Sharon01]

Well spotted.

Sharon

[KGarrad]

Looks like a complicated family?!

1851 census: Class:  HO107; Piece:  2153; Folio:  85; Page:  8
Rowarth House, Thornset, Derbyshire

Bottoms, John  Head  M  22  Cotton Manufacturer  b Charlesworth, Derbyshire
Bottoms, Elizabeth  Wife  F  21  b Thornset
Hartwell, John  Brother  M  20  Bleacher  b Rowarth
Hartwell, Mary  Sister  F  14  b Rowarth
Bottoms, John  Son  M  2  b Rowarth
Hartwell, Ann  Sister  F  11  Scholar  b Rowarth
Hartwell, Richard  Brother  M  10  Scholar  b Rowarth
Hartwell, Harriet  Sister  F  5  Scholar  b Rowarth

[Beechbaby]

Hi Garrard thank you for your 1st  info with Harriet Heartwell (we don't know who she is I have asked living relative and never heard of her !!!!!!!!!!)
Also for 2nd post  can I just say do you think they are mine I only say this because of the spelling ours is def. Heartwell. ?
But  thank you all for your help.

[Sharon01]

Also for 2nd post  can I just say do you think they are mine I only say this because of the spelling ours is def. Heartwell. ?
But  thank you all for your help.

Not at all difficult to have been transcribed as Hartwell, pronounced exactly the same.

Sharon

[KGarrad]

I wouldn't worry too much about spellings!
That was written by the enumerator - he simply wrote what he heard!

I was looking for the father (John) from 1861.
The 1851 seems to fit for name, age, profession and place of birth.

New Mills, in the parish of Glossop includes the hamlets of Beard, Ollerset, Thornset and Whistle.