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"Backside Foremost", North Road, Jesmond NBL - 1861 census
« on: Monday 09 September 13 14:02 BST (UK) »
On the 1861 census I noticed a house called "Backside Foremost" on the North Road, Jesmond in Newcastle.

A husbandman and his family lived there and West Jesmond Farm is next door.

Anyone know anything about this house? Maybe the back of the house faced the road?

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Re: "Backside Foremost", North Road, Jesmond NBL - 1861 census
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 September 13 23:34 BST (UK) »
Which family are you researching?
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Re: "Backside Foremost", North Road, Jesmond NBL - 1861 census
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 September 13 06:36 BST (UK) »
In this case, it's the house, not a family.

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UK - Northumberland, County Durham: ANDERSON,   DODD(S), EDWARDS, ELLIOTT/ELLET, FENWICK, GREY/GRAY, HINDMARCH and variants, JORDAN, MOORE, MURRAY, RIPPON, RODDHAM, RYDER-TURNER, SPARK(E)(S), STEWART, TILLEY, TIPLADY, WATSON,
Sheffield: TURNER
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Re: "Backside Foremost", North Road, Jesmond NBL - 1861 census
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 September 13 06:52 BST (UK) »
Gen, have you checked earlier and later censuses for the same house? Old maps of the area may give further information (previous names perhaps?). Sometimes you can even narrow down a date of construction if it 'appears' between maps of certain dates.


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Re: "Backside Foremost", North Road, Jesmond NBL - 1861 census
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 September 13 08:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ruskie.

I suspect the maps will be at TWAS in Newcastle. I don't often go there.

On the 1871 census there is a Water Pond Cottage, a Beer House (tailor lived there!) the Herd's House (the herd lived there)

On the 1851 census I can only find a Pinfold Cottage on the North Road.

Looks as though it was renamed, don't blame them!

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UK - Northumberland, County Durham: ANDERSON,   DODD(S), EDWARDS, ELLIOTT/ELLET, FENWICK, GREY/GRAY, HINDMARCH and variants, JORDAN, MOORE, MURRAY, RIPPON, RODDHAM, RYDER-TURNER, SPARK(E)(S), STEWART, TILLEY, TIPLADY, WATSON,
Sheffield: TURNER
Middlesex: RYDER
<br />Aberdeenshire: EDWARDS, BRODIE<br />Angus STEWART, DIXON, PETRIE

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Re: "Backside Foremost", North Road, Jesmond NBL - 1861 census
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 September 13 09:11 BST (UK) »
Hi

Given that the next address is St Andrew's Cemetery Lodge, I'd say it must have been along what is now Highbury/Fairfield Road. I've had a look on Google Street view but don't see any 'weird' houses along there that might be that old and haven't noticed any on my travels around there!

Old-maps 1872 shows a lone building just to the North of the Cemetery about where the Fairfield Road spur-bit ends.


Gadget - about 3/4 - 1 mile away from there  ;D

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Re: "Backside Foremost", North Road, Jesmond NBL - 1861 census
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 September 13 09:43 BST (UK) »
Here's a link to the position of the building on old-maps:

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html?coords=424900,566355

and  then select the 1864 or 1872 maps from the right hand menu


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Re: "Backside Foremost", North Road, Jesmond NBL - 1861 census
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 September 13 09:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget

I also had a look on Google Street View and noticed two battered, old, stone pillars on the Great North Road, at the entrance to the side road leading up to St Andrews cemetery which is set back a fair bit from the main road. Those pillars would be "next door" to the house called "Backside Foremost" on the North Road. After Google zooming up and down the North Road on either side, there seems no house/cottage left on the North Road at all in the vicinity of the old entrance to the cemetery.

I have just remembered I have some Alan Godfrey OS map reprints of Jesmond upstairs somewhere. Will have a look and post again but I don't think they go back far enough for 1861.

I noticed when I was zooming in on the area on Google Satellite View, that the Hoppings are on some shots but they disappear when you get to the final zoom ;D

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UK - Northumberland, County Durham: ANDERSON,   DODD(S), EDWARDS, ELLIOTT/ELLET, FENWICK, GREY/GRAY, HINDMARCH and variants, JORDAN, MOORE, MURRAY, RIPPON, RODDHAM, RYDER-TURNER, SPARK(E)(S), STEWART, TILLEY, TIPLADY, WATSON,
Sheffield: TURNER
Middlesex: RYDER
<br />Aberdeenshire: EDWARDS, BRODIE<br />Angus STEWART, DIXON, PETRIE

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Re: "Backside Foremost", North Road, Jesmond NBL - 1861 census
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 September 13 10:06 BST (UK) »
As far as I can recall, there weren't any buildings directly on the road itself - I used to live in Brandling Village many moons ago (early 1970s) and learned to drive around there. I now live just to the north of Jesmond.

Why not use the old-maps link I gave as there are a variety of maps for you to choose from there and it will save you popping upstairs  ;D

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