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Re: George Henry Hunt a real PUZZLE
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 21:14 BST (UK) »
"Fathers names are listed and neither match the Surname of Bride & Groom!"

. . . . . and the names were?

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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 22:13 BST (UK) »
These surely cannot be correct!

James Mellor birth 1832, father German Dean?

Mary Tott birth 1835, father William Chapman

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Re: George Henry Hunt a real PUZZLE
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 26 September 13 22:57 BST (UK) »
Spendlove following on from your post 6 I thinkI just could not let this go

looking for a William Fox Born abt 1834 Crich with Father John produces
1841 Census
HO107; Piece: 196; Book: 18 South Wingfield, Derbyshire

John Fox               35
Fanny Fox   35
Mira Fox    20
Sarah Fox   13
John Fox                10
William Fox   7
Fanny Fox   5
Joseph Fox   1
Emma Fox   1 Fanny Fox Was a Frances Hunt her marriage was 1825 Heanor Derbyshire unfortunately no fathers are given for either John or Frances. But the puzzle still remains but feel this is definitely the right track, how though is Henry related to Frances?

any ideas, hoping ???

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Re: George Henry Hunt a real PUZZLE
« Reply #21 on: Friday 14 March 14 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Six months on and I'm no nearer finding who George Henry Hunt really was. Still feel that he added the George as a sign of respectability. Still feel that he is somehow connected to William Fox  son of Frances Fox nee Hunt. He is down as Henry Hunt nephew on the 1871 census of William Fox. There are too many Henry Hunts born in the Belper area around 1855/1860 to send for all of the birth certificates so am wondering would an illegitimate child have been baptised in those days? if so would it be worth visiting Derbyshire archives to look at baptisms in Crich, am I likely to find what I'm looking for? just to find his mother would be fantastic, maybe she died giving birth so might find something to connect him to someone.

In reply to an earlier reply yes he was down as George Henry on his daughters birth and marriage certificates.

Really need advice on this one ???



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Re: George Henry Hunt a real PUZZLE
« Reply #22 on: Friday 14 March 14 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

A little more information but no actual confirmation that Henry Hunt is the same person as George Henry Hunt.

1861 Census
Bonsal Derbyshire.

Jesse Cotterill  B.1836  Bonsal
Emma  "          B 1840  Moorwood Moor
Henry Hunt      (son in Law) so actually step son  1859 Belper (from this you know he was born
                                            in 1858 but prior to the marriage 19.9.1858)
William Cotterill son born 1860

Jesse Cotterill = Emma Hunt 19.9.1858 Crich  his Father was George Cotterill
Emma Hunt  Father Unknown  Bride a minor.

This is the only census that Henry Hunt appears with his mother, he then appears as previous post.

Think it is now important to discover who the parents of Emma Hunt  Born abt 1840 were.
So looking at the siblings of Frances (Fanny) Hunt born 1800 Heanor, who were there children.

Hope this makes sence - off to bed.

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Re: George Henry Hunt a real PUZZLE
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 15 March 14 09:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks spendlove

 yes it does all make sense, well of a sorts. I had followed that line way back and am now thinking this to be the case, have looked on the map and found that Morewood Moor is near South Wingfield and Wessington where George Henry lived in later life, how near is it to Crich? and what registration district would that have been in 1840 and 1858.

I have tried to find information of Frances Hunts siblings but to no avail, I have found all their births in Heanor and marriages for three but after that nothing not a single census.

Still in hope!

If I was to visit the Derbyshire archives any idea where I should start looking.

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Re: George Henry Hunt a real PUZZLE
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 15 March 14 22:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Looking on familysearch, I can only discover one son born to Nathaniel Hunt & Sarah.

This is a Robert christened June or July 1806 Heanor, if this is the only son then it can only
be his daughter who produced Emma Hunt born abt 1840 Moorwood Moor.  All this assuming
that Emma Hunt was illegitimate.

Assume that Moorwood Moor is part of South Wingfield, so would come under the Belper Reg. Dist.

Before you can start looking at the Hundreds of Parish Registers at Derbyshire Record Office, you
need to identify which parishes you need to search.

You could start by looking at the church register for Crich re Cotterill/Hunt marriage 1858 and
check the details.  You could also search the South Wingfield Parish Register to see if the birth
of Emma Hunt born 1839/1840 Moorwood Moor is recorded.

Sorry but still not able to solve your problem. 

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 15 March 14 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I found firstly on ancestry and then familysearch Frances Hunt born/baptised 1800St Laurence Heanor
then a marriage of a Nathaniel Hunt to Sarah Pindar same church in 1793
George Hunt b/b 1793 marries Ann Fidler 1816 but nothing from then on for him. Elizabeth 1795 three possible marriages for her in Heanor, Mary 1797 two possible marriages for her, Robert 1806 nothing further for him, Sarah 1806 m William Springthorpe 1828, Eliza 1811 but again nothing further for her.

Logically Emma should be the daughter of George or Robert but of course she could have been the illegitimate daughter of one of the girls.

It does look as if I should have a day at the archives doesn't it looking for a needle in a haystack!.

Thanks for your help
stubbs

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Re: George Henry Hunt a real PUZZLE
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 19 March 14 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

The 1841 Census posted previously:-

1841 Census
HO107; Piece: 196; Book: 18 South Wingfield, Derbyshire

John Fox               35
Fanny Fox   35
Mira Fox    20
Sarah Fox   13
John Fox                10
William Fox   7
Fanny Fox   5
Joseph Fox   1
Emma Fox     1

In 1841 Census the adult ages are rounded down by up to 4 years.  Mira aged 20 is listed as
a Fox, but actually she is a Hunt.
Mira Hunt Born 25.1.1819 Christened 8.4.1819 Heanor Derbyshire Mother Frances Hunt so she was the illegitimate daughter of Mrs. Frances Fox.  Her actual age would be 22 in 1841.  It is quite likely that she is the Mother of Emma Hunt.
Will not go down the line of were Joseph & Emma twins!!

Looking in the 1851 Census for Mira Hunt or Mira anything, the only one I can discover is listed
as M. Rooth born 1819 Woolley Moor, wife of William Rooth. Cannot find a marriage.

1861 Census Crich RG 9; Piece: 2512; Folio: 27; Page: 10
Mira Colledge 42 born Langley Mill Nottinghamshire (actually Derbyshire)

On Family Search the Marriage is
John Colidge to Mirah Hunt  1852 Ashover
Civil Registration has John Colidge to Miran Hunt.

This just adds to the confusion, but if you could identify Miran in 1851 Census it may assist,
even though she would not have her daughter living with her.

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