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Re: Census Puzzler 1911
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 October 13 09:26 BST (UK) »
1901 2741/57/47

Has the family relating to those baptisms. They are transcribed as Davin but Annie is with them.
They are the same couple as 1891, Henry Thomas  being a tin plate worker.
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Re: Census Puzzler 1911
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 October 13 09:50 BST (UK) »
Good spot!  Their daughter Ann (12) is with them.  Does that mean the Annie with Alfred and Harriett is someone else and not the granddaughter of Joseph and Phoebe?
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Re: Census Puzzler 1911 COMPLETED
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 October 13 09:57 BST (UK) »
Harriet Willets married to Alfred Davies
 had a sister Annie born 1867, she could have married a Henry Thomas Davis, but he is not related to Alfreds family.
 or Harry , Henry ? on the 1891, same street St Matthews, not aware of him being a family relation.
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Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: Census Puzzler 1911
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 October 13 10:00 BST (UK) »
Does the 1901 show the relationship, and or are this family on the 1911 ?
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Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING


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Re: Census Puzzler 1911
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 October 13 10:01 BST (UK) »
I haven't delved too much- I will leave that to Geoff  ;) but to me it looks as though Annie (mother) was the daughter of Joseph and Phoebe so 1891 is correct.

Whether she is the same Annie recorded as daughter to Alfred and Harriett in 1901 - who knows?

If she was the same person, she could have been recorded twice - with her family and with A and H. The enumerator could have presumed she was a daughter. She could have been staying just overnight - it's difficult to know, I suppose.
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Re: Census Puzzler 1911
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 October 13 10:03 BST (UK) »
Does the 1901 show the relationship, and or are this family on the 1911 ?
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1901 they are all children of Henry Thomas and Annie.
Yes they are in 1911. See reply #8
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Re: Census Puzzler 1911
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 October 13 10:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks reply 8! takes it to a Gladys Davies ?
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: Census Puzzler 1911
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 October 13 10:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks reply 8! takes it to a Gladys Davies ?

Yes it does and she is in 1911 index. If you read reply 6 you will see her baptism and some other children.
In both those she is Davis and not Davies.
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Re: Census Puzzler 1911
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 01 October 13 10:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks so the likely answer is Ann was not Alfred and Harriets
But Harriets Sister Annie`s
And with Joseph and Phoebe as Grandaughter, living in St Matthews Street
With Henry-Harry Thomas Davis also not being related to Alfred as parents.
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Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING