Hello!
I am, again, being daft, because I'd decided to transcribe the LDLH register for FreeREG, and started it yesterday, and the very first entry in the register is Mary, daughter of Charles & Mary Tiffin. Why that didn't go *ping* in my head, even though it's actually written in my transcribing notebook, I don't know. But there we have it, some Tiffins!
And some more Tiffins, in fact, because I went back to Edward & Elizabeth's 1767 marriage (14th January - son William baptised in June), and guess who one of the witnesses is? Charles Tiffin!
But who's the other witness? Is he a Wade too? I wish that surname was easier to read....
Then various Tiffins and Wades popping up in the marriage register:
John Tiffin witnesses a marriage 1769. There's also a marriage in LDLH on 24 Dec 1755 for Joseph Yell and Sary Wade, a widow - wouldn't be surprised if she's Edward's mother. Joseph is a single man, so when we see the 1810 will of Joseph Yell senior of LDLH, dare we assume that Joseph Yell jnr is his son, and therefore possibly Edward's half-brother? (or perhaps that Joseph Yell senr is the son of Joseph & Sary?). I think I might investigate the Yells a little closer.
There's a Grace Wade in 1775 marrying Robert Hows with Susannah Yell as a witness. 1782, John Wade marries Mary ? and Wm Yell is one of the witnesses. Mary Tiffin witnesses the 1783 marriage of William Wootton and Susannah Segers. 1785, John Wade widower marries Judith Mead, witnesses: James Burton & Grace Hows (poss his sister). Judith Wade witnesses the 1791 marriage of John Bartlett and Mary Wilken. 1810, Mary Tiffin witnesses the marriage Thomas Wolf & Sarah Whiting.
I didn't know about the James Wade in Polstead - I assume this is him mentioned here (from the Cosford database)
Sarah WADE was born in 1786 in Elmsett, Suffolk, England. She was baptised on 20 Dec 1786 in Elmsett, Suffolk, England. She was a Nurse in 1851 in kersey Tye, Kersey, Suffolk, England. She died before 6 Mar 1867 in Polstead, Suffolk, England. She was buried on 6 Mar 1867 in Kersey, Suffolk, England. Her age is entered on the burial record as 80. Parents: James WADE and Susan AYLWORTH.
She was married to William FROST on 6 May 1807 in Whatfield, Suffolk, England. Children were: Maria FROST, Maria FROST, Sarah FROST, Hannah FROST, James FROST, Sarah FROST. (there is a connection with the Frosts in the Marsden tree - Ann Marsden married Samuel Frost of Coggeshall in 1809).
There is a James Wade in Fingringhoe, married to Martha, who have children baptised there in the 1760s and 1770s, and a James Wade pops up in East Donyland in the 1790s. Access to Archives mentions a 1764 will of James Wade of Stoke by Nayland, so I wonder if that's worth looking at? It's not on Discovery, but they do have the 1738 will of Thomas Wade of (drum roll please, it's that place again...) Boxford.
To Colchester - yes, that sounds like it could be the marriage of Mary Tiffin to James Mansfield, and the baptisms at the chapel sound correct - the grandchildren in Charles' will are James & Mary Ann Mansfield. I've sent off for the ESFH Colchester PR CDs - even though I've got a Seax account, it might make things a bit easier!!! I'll look all these people up on them when they arrive.
I've had a look at the Colchester CD covering 1813-51 and I have the following:
18 Jan 1841, Robert Tiffin, hosier and glover (an occupation that the Marsdens were fond of), marries Matilda Cuthbert Smith. Robert is the son of Charles Tiffin, farmer. They have several children in the 1840s and 1850s.
Mansfields in Colchester:31 Aug 1822, at St Nicholas', by licence: John Nunn, bachelor of St Mary's, Bury St Eds, marries Eliza Wayman Mansfield, spinster and a minor (Note the middle name - this ties us back in with the Waynmans, I would say). Just checked the original register entry and it gives her father's name: James Mansfield. Is this a child of James who married Mary Tiffin? In fact, the vicar has spelt her middle name "Wayman" but she's signed it "Waynman". Thomas Waynman and Mary (Marsden) had at least two children - William b in 1783, and Sarah. It's possible James married Sarah if Mary died, I suppose.
10 Jan 1843, at All Sts, by banns the marriage of Wm Elijah Chaplin, and Mary Waller Mansfield - her father is Samuel Mansfield, bays manufacturer (note the occupation). (Edited to add: she was baptised at Stockwell Street Chapel as well - on 11 Jan 1810. Born 12 Sep 1807).
10 Oct 1820, marriage at St Giles of Samuel Mansfield of Kelvedon to Judith Pain - could be father of Mary Waller Mansfield. One of the witnesses is Bearman May - might be worth mentioning that William Cardinal Wade, son of Edward & Elizabeth, married a Judith Bearman. The Bearmans owned a not insignificant amount of land around Tendring and Beaumont-cum-Moze.
Possibly of most relevance because we can, I would say, fairly confidently identify him - a burial at St Nicholas on 8th Nov 1848 - James Mansfield, aged 83 (so b abt 1765), of St Nicholas. Possibly the husband of Mary Tiffin.