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Re: Where is George Phillips in 1871?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08 October 13 13:04 BST (UK) »
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Emily Phillips mar 37        bn HANWORTH Middlesex

So the POBs in the 1871 have been reversed.  ;)
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Re: Where is George Phillips in 1871?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 08 October 13 13:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Groom,

Yup, looks like the POB's in the 1871 have been reversed also Emma/Emily seems to alternate her name between the two!

Many thanks.

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Re: Where is George Phillips in 1871?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 08 October 13 13:11 BST (UK) »
I dont think Thomas was born until after the 1871 census, so they got his age wrong in 1881

Births Sep 1871 
PHILLIPS    Thomas        Croydon    2a   184
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Re: Where is George Phillips in 1871?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 08 October 13 13:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Groom,

Many thanks for that, that would certainly explain Thomas's not being present in the 1871 Census.


I'm struggling to get into freebmd at present, probably too busy! Grrrr! ;D

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Re: Where is George Phillips in 1871?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 08 October 13 13:32 BST (UK) »
Hi

Childrens christenings that I can find for George and EMILY

Norman chr. 24 Aug. 1873 St James Croydon, abode: Queens Rd., fathers occ; bricklayer

Elizabeth Mary
Emily
Henrietta Maud all chr. 28 Apr 1881,Croydon, Holy Saviour. Abode: 6 Foster Rd.

William
Henrietta  both chr. 14 Jan 1886   Croydon, Holy Saviour. Abode: Princess Rd. Fthrs Occ: Bricklayer

Lillian Rose Phillips chr. 8 Apr 1888 Croydon, Holy Saviour. Abode: 2 Albert Cottages, Princess Rd.

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Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: Where is George Phillips in 1871?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 08 October 13 13:35 BST (UK) »
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Yup, looks like the POB's in the 1871 have been reversed also Emma/Emily seems to alternate her name between the two!

Not unusual, my aunt was Emily but was always called Em or Emma.
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Re: Where is George Phillips in 1871?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 08 October 13 13:41 BST (UK) »
Here is Emma's family in 1851

Hanworth, Middlesex
HO107; Piece: 1696; Folio: 145; Page: 11

Allen Gosden   40       Labourer             Chobham, Surrey
Maria Gosden   40                                 Wandsworth, Surrey
George Gosden   20                                 Hanworth, Middlesex
Emily Gosden   6                                   Hanworth, Middlesex
Hannah Gosden   4                                   Hanworth, Middlesex
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Re: Where is George Phillips in 1871?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 08 October 13 13:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Claire & Groom,

Many thanks for your replies, very much appreciated.

Claire, many thanks indeed for those christenings, much appreciated. Incidentally the 1881 census entry for Emily & family on familysearch has the address as 6, Forster Road, Croydon whereas the christenings are Foster Road. Wonder whether the census address has been mistranscribed!

Groom, many thanks for that, it would certainly explain it! Also many thanks for 1851 Census for Gosden family.

As I mentioned in my last post I seem unable to get into freebmd at present (trying to find out what happened to James Arthur Phillips in 1881 as he's not at home. However I have found this possible in 1881 on familysearch.

James Phillips, age 14 b1867, no place of birth, an inmate & scholar at Surrey Certified Industrial School in Byfleet, Surrey (RG11/769/83/6)

Would I be able to find records of such a school & if so where would I find them?

Many thanks once again.

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David
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Re: Where is George Phillips in 1871?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 08 October 13 13:58 BST (UK) »
1891 census is interesting

Croydon 33 Beulah Grove

Emma Phillips hd wid. 5?  laundress 
Florence dau 17
JAMES  son  15
Thomas  "   14
Norman  "   12
George   "   10
Emily    dau   7
Henrietta "    7
William  son  5
Rosa    dau  2           All born Croydon

Class RG12 Piece 592 Folio 24 Page 48.

claire
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