Author Topic: John Lloyd 1864 born in NK,Radnorshire Wales  (Read 10747 times)

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Re: John Lloyd 1864 born in NK,Radnorshire Wales
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 19 October 13 14:27 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Just got the marriage cert
and both fathers where labourers living in Leintwardine at the time

Johns father was a
Thomas Lloyd

So I it cant be any of the above sorry :(
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Re: John Lloyd 1864 born in NK,Radnorshire Wales
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 19 October 13 15:49 BST (UK) »
I assume you're happy it's the right couple getting married though? If so, it's a help...
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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John Lloyd b 1864, the mystery man
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 25 June 17 18:21 BST (UK) »
John Lloyd is a direct ancestor.
He was born in 1864 according to all sources and was married to Elizabeth.

I have the marriage cert, which I think is the correct one.
He married Elizabeth Davies on 6th May 1889 in Leintwardine parish church, Herefordshire.
He lists his father as being Thomas Lloyd, a labourer.
The witnesses were William Davies and Elizabeth Meredith.

In 1891, which is the earliest census that I am sure of, he was living in Burrington, Herefordshire with wife and child. He states he was born "NK, Radnorshire".
In 1901, he was in Wigmore, Shropshire stating born NK, Shropshire.
In the last available census, he was in Brampton Bryan, Radnorshire. He stated here that he was born Gillsfield, Montgomeryshire which sounds like Guilsfield.
I am certain that the census are correct to my ancestor as all of the childrens names match living relatives memory.

I am aware I have asked this similarly, but I'm still scratching my head.

Can someone try and find a baptism or early census with his parents please?


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Re: John Lloyd b 1864, the mystery man
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 25 June 17 19:02 BST (UK) »
I'm sure you will have gone through loads but have you tried Loyd as a surname. There are some possibles in 1871. You may pick up family names.

Peter

Sorry but I forgot to put Thomas in as father and that removes the possibles
Jones, Edwards, Davies, Owen, Benjamin , Hughes , Roberts,Thomas,Williams, Wynne , Griffiths, Howells, Rowlands etc etc
plus
Thomas,Trewren,Holmes,Thirlwall,Jones again & again
& more


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Re: John Lloyd b 1864, the mystery man
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 25 June 17 20:57 BST (UK) »
To avoid duplication of info/effort - here is the link to one of the previous posts about John Lloyd

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Re: John Lloyd b 1864, the mystery man
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 25 June 17 20:59 BST (UK) »
I thought there might be a possibility that the witness Elizabeth Meredith might be a married sister of John,which might help trace him.
There is a possible 1887 marriage of George Meredith to an Elizabeth Lloyd in Ross,together with the birth of a George Joseph(mmn LLoyd) in Ross in 1889.Unfortunately,it looks like the child did not survive and I can't currently spot the couple in 1891 for any more clues.

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Re: John Lloyd b 1864, the mystery man
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 25 June 17 21:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Peter, I'm just having a trawl now.

Good idea Carole, thanks. Although as can be seen all info suggested previously was proved impossible by the mc showing Thomas as the father.

That's a clever line of thought despair!! Will take a look myself now.

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Re: John Lloyd b 1864, the mystery man
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 25 June 17 21:23 BST (UK) »
Working backwards,with Elizabeth marrying in Ross district,there is a reasonable candidate in 1881,with a father Thomas,and a brother Joseph(as in George Joseph Meredith?) at Coppett Hill,Goodrich,Ross.There is no John present but he could be elsewhere.

RG11/2586/127/8

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Re: John Lloyd b 1864, the mystery man
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 25 June 17 21:42 BST (UK) »
I've found the same family at the same address in 1871(RG10/2687/128/8).Unfortunately no John,but no Elizabeth either-let's hope they are both with relatives somewhere!

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