Phillips of Londonderry

[owenc]

Trying to do part of my family tree and I am really struggling with this part. There are many people that I cannot find any records of and i'm beginning to wonder if they are from England or something.

All I know is that a george phillips is my gggg grandfathers grandfather and I cannot physically locate this man. Over the weekend I tried glendermott catholic church and st columbs church of ireland found nothing. I am clueless. Does anyone know anything about the history of this name in derry? What are its origins?

[kingskerswell]

Owen,
         Do you have a date for George Phillips?

Regards

[owenc]

Owen,
         Do you have a date for George Phillips?

Regards

No I don't sorry. All I know is that he is my gggg granda's (john kerr) granda lol. I got this from a newspaper clipping:
http://m.londonderrysentinel.co.uk/news/local-news/newbuildings-then-and-now-1-2094918

[aghadowey]

No I don't sorry. All I know is that he is my gggg granda's (john kerr) granda lol. I got this from a newspaper clipping:
http://m.londonderrysentinel.co.uk/news/local-news/newbuildings-then-and-now-1-2094918

Are you sure that George Philips in the article is your great-great-great-great-grandfather or are you just leaping to that conclusion based on the name and the location? If you can't give us any dates for your George Philips then what's the earliest date for that line that you can provide (and relationship please- i.e. 'my great-great-grandfather John Philips was born 1870' or somthing like that).

[ShaunJ]

To be alive and owning a car in the 1920's ( the Austin 12 was first produced in 1921) I think that George Phillips must be the grandfather of the interviewee George McLaughlin, not the grandfather of John Kerr who was born circa 1855. John Kerr's grandfather would have been born circa 1805.

[aghadowey]

My thoughts exactly, Shaun.

Owen- you've posted about this article before but instead of trying to link to a name in an area you need to research each generation step-by-step.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=646162

[owenc]

I never thought of it like that. I suppose it could be that, the arcticle is very confusing. The reason why i'm convinced this is true is because john kerr owns a house and the tenant is william phillips.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000635303/

John kerr was either born in 1855 or 1858 and his father is Patrick kerr from Aughafad in Tyrone. (Not sure where that is). I have a marriage certificate for john kerr and catherine mellon and fintona catholic church is listed. (1880)I don't know where to access the microfilms for tyrone so haven't got to do that.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Glendermot/Ballyore/605273/

[aghadowey]

The census record does not say that John Kerr owns the house that William Phillips is occupying- merely that he is the leaseholder of the property (in Griffith's called immediate lessor). To check on the ownership you need to consult the Valuation Revision Books- most people were not actually property owners at that time-
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/val12b.htm

[ShaunJ]

Aghafad is a townland near Fintona http://www.genuki.eu/TYR/Place671.htm