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Anna Louise Marie Eisele, born Paris 1863
« on: Thursday 17 October 13 09:44 BST (UK) »
I would welcome a translation of the birth record of Anna Eisele which took place in Paris in 1863.

The record can be found in the following link:


http://canadp-archivesenligne.paris.fr/archives_etat_civil/1860_1902_actes/aec_visu_img.php?registre=V4E_02400&type=AEC&&bdd_en_cours=actes_ec_1860_1870&vue_tranche_debut=AD075EC_V4E_02400_0035&vue_tranche_fin=AD075EC_V4E_02400_0065&ref_histo=16468&cote=V4E%202400

Entry 2541
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Many thanks, Paul

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Re: Anna Louise Marie Eisele, born Paris 1863
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 October 13 15:25 BST (UK) »
12th November 1863 at 15:15 pm, birth cert of Anna Louise Marie Eiselé, of the female gender, born this morning at 04:00 o’clock in the house
of Mademoiselle Caillouel, midewife : Rue des Amandier n° 103. Daughter of François Charles Eiselé, 32 years old, portfolio manager, who (reconnaitre) the child, and from  Anna Henriette Louise Joly, 27 years old, without profession, both residing Chemin vicinal de Ménilmontant  n° 7
in this arrondissement, unmarried. According the declaration and the presentation of the child done by the father to me officer of the civil registry
of the 20th arrondissement from  the city Paris. In the presence of Adolph Dardaux, 48 years old, cabinetmaker;  Rue des Panoyaux n° 36, and
Louis Felix Emmanuel Joly, 26 years old, no occupation; Rue des Cascades n° 25, both in this arrondissement, who have signed after the reading with the father and me.

sorry I don’t know the right word   :  reconnaitre  =  acknowledgment of an illegitimate child


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Re: Anna Louise Marie Eisele, born Paris 1863
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 October 13 16:13 BST (UK) »
portfolio manager

Or perhaps a portefeuilliste is a maker of wallets (portefeuilles)?

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Re: Anna Louise Marie Eisele, born Paris 1863
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 October 13 20:36 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the above work. The father was described as a pocket book maker in the UK 1871 census, so maybe this translates to Portefeuillister in French.

I have also found the birth record of Anna's sister, Bertha (my great Grandmother) born in 1865 and have attempted to translate. I would welcome a check of my translation and any amendments:

http://canadp-archivesenligne.paris.fr/archives_etat_civil/1860_1902_actes/aec_visu_img.php?registre=V4E_02421&type=AEC&&bdd_en_cours=actes_ec_1860_1870&vue_tranche_debut=AD075EC_V4E_02421_0064&vue_tranche_fin=AD075EC_V4E_02421_0094&ref_histo=16553&cote=V4E%202421

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Du six Decembre mil huit cent soixante cinq, a trois heure trois quatre du soir, Acte du Naissance de Bertha Blanche Eisele, du sexe féminin, née hier matin a trois heure, chemin neuf de Menilmontant 17, au domicile de son père et mere, fille du Charles Francis Eisele, âge de trente trois ans, portefeuilliste, qui declare tu reconnaître a de Anna Henriette Joly, âgée de vingt-neuf ans sans profession, non maries. Sur la présentation de l'enfant a la déclaration faites noure officier de l'état civil du vingtième arrondissment de la Ville del Paris, par le père, au présence del: Louis Felix Emmanuel Joly, âge de vingt huit ans, commis opticien, rue des Pavillons, 3, et Jules Meclanchon, âge de vingt six ans, Sapeur pompier, rue de Poissy, 24, tous deux a Paris, qui ont signe au le père et nous, lecture faite.



The 6 December, eighteen hundred and sixty-five, three hour and three quarters in the evening, Act of Birth of Bertha Blanche Eisele, female, born yesterday morning three hours,  road Neuf de Menilmontant 17, at the home of her father and mother, daughter of Charles Francis Eisele, age thirty-three years, Portfolio maker, stated that you recognize Anna Henriette Joly, aged twenty-nine years without occupation, unmarried. The presentation of the child's statement made ​​? officer of the Registry Office of the twentieth arrondissment City of Paris, the father, in the presence of: Louis Felix Emmanuel Joly, age twenty-eight years, committed optician, rue des Pavillons, 3, and Jules Meclanchon, age twenty-six years, firefighter, rue de Poissy, 24, both in Paris, that have signed in father and we made ​​reading.

Many thanks, Paul




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Re: Anna Louise Marie Eisele, born Paris 1863
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 October 13 11:01 BST (UK) »
Good stuff – you have the essence of it  :)

Du six Décembre mil huit cent soixante cinq, à trois heures
trois quarts du soir, Acte de Naissance de Berthe Blanche
Eiselé, du sexe féminin, née hier matin à trois heures, chemin
neuf de Ménilmontant, 7, au domicile de son père et mère, fille de
Charles François Eiselé, âgé de trente trois ans, portefeuilliste, qui déclare
la reconnaître et de Anna Henriette Joly, âgée de vingt neuf
ans sans profession, non mariés. Sur la présentation de l'enfant et
la déclaration faites à nous officier de l'état civil du vingtième arron-
dissement de la Ville de Paris, par le père, en présence de: Louis
Félix Emmanuel Joly, âgé de vingt huit ans, commis opticien, rue
des Pavillons, 3, et Jules Meerlanchon(?), âgé de vingt six ans, Sapeur
pompier, rue de Poissy, 24, tous deux à Paris, qui ont signé avec
le père et nous, lecture faite.


Registered at 3.45pm on 6 December 1865
Born at 3.00am on 5 December 1865
Berthe Blanche Eiselé
Daughter of Charles François Eiselé, aged 33, pocket-book maker, and Anne Henriette Joly, age 29, no occupation
Parents unmarried, but father acknowledged the child

commis opticien = optician’s assistant

The transcriptions/translations of the birth registrations that have recently been done for you show how the last phrase of the text can be worded.  ;)

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Re: Anna Louise Marie Eisele, born Paris 1863
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 October 13 18:39 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your work.

There is yet another sister, Augustine Sophie Dorothea Eisele born in 1861.

It appears details are very similar to the previous two. I would welcome your input on this record:


http://canadp-archivesenligne.paris.fr/archives_etat_civil/1860_1902_actes/aec_visu_img.php?registre=V4E_02380&type=AEC&&bdd_en_cours=actes_ec_1860_1870&vue_tranche_debut=AD075EC_V4E_02380_0009&vue_tranche_fin=AD075EC_V4E_02380_0039&ref_histo=16382&cote=V4E%202380

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Once again, many thanks, Paul

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Re: Anna Louise Marie Eisele, born Paris 1863
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 October 13 23:03 BST (UK) »
Summary ...

Registered 12 April 1861, 3.00pm
Augustine Sophie Dorothée Eiselé
Born 10 April 1861, 6.00pm, at home of parents, rue des Cascades 21
father François Charles Eiselé, aged 30, pocket-book maker
mother Anna Henriette Louise Joly, aged 25, same occupation
parents unmarried, but father acknowledges the child
witnesses: Auguste Delautre, aged 28, pocket-book maker; Adolphe Dardaux, aged 46, cabinet maker
(all signed)


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Re: Anna Louise Marie Eisele, born Paris 1863
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 October 13 12:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you. Much appreciated.

Paul