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Re: James Bailey 1861 census - Please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 21 October 13 04:45 BST (UK) »
St Mary The Virgin,Eccles Lancashire,
30th August 1846,
Thomas Howarth,of full age ,bachelor carter,of Pendleton,
Margaret Bayley,X) minor,spinster of Pendleton,
Grooms father James Howorth,sizer,
Brides father ,James Bayley,stone mason,
Witness to marriage, Mary Bayley and Thomas Whittaker,

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Re: James Bailey 1861 census - Please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 21 October 13 13:46 BST (UK) »
I cant find Nancy born 1857 in 1861 Census.
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Re: James Bailey 1861 census - Please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 21 October 13 14:08 BST (UK) »
1851 Census
Broadway Lane,
Oldham, Lancashire
HO107/2240/330/15
Thomas HURST, 35, Head, Mar, Coal Miner
Mary, 36, Wife, Mar
SARAH, 16, Daug, Cotton Carding Room
Betty, 11, Daug, Home Nurse
William, 9, Son
Hannah, 6, Daug
Jane, 1, Daug
All born Oldham

1841 Census
HO107/547/5/Prestwich Cum Oldham
Thomas HURST, 25, Coal Miner
Mary Hurst, 25
SARAH Hurst, 6
Betty Hurst, 1
Margery Hurst, 65, Washerwoman
All born in County

Possible Marriage from FreeREG.
You would need a Child born post 1837's Birth Cert to confirm Marys maiden name.

17 December 1832, St Mary, Oldham
Thomas HIRST, Coalminer, abode Oldham
Mary JACKSON, Spinster, abode Oldham
Witnesses, John LOE, Jonathan JACKSON
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Re: James Bailey 1861 census - Please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 October 13 14:27 BST (UK) »
No neither can I but she is baptised the same day as her brother Charles,
May 4th 1862,St Mary Wardleworth
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Re: James Bailey 1861 census - Please
« Reply #13 on: Monday 21 October 13 14:41 BST (UK) »
Thank you all very much  :)

This is all looking very promising.

Would you say Sarah's maiden name is HURST OR HIRST???

Anyone got James Bailey and James Bailey sr on the 1841 census?

Can someone explain how Nancy is missing on the 1861 census?
No Nancy Bailey's aged 4 anywhere?
Could she be with relations and her surname as been accidently taken down as that of her relations.
I'm sure you've thought of that but just in case.

Thanks again
LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster

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Re: James Bailey 1861 census - Please
« Reply #14 on: Monday 21 October 13 14:54 BST (UK) »
I cant explain why she is missing,
she may be with one of her grandparents or even ill in hospital,her birth and baptism are there,
what I don't understand is why her brother Thomas was baptised in 1861 he is younger than Nancy,
maybe they just forgot to get her done,
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Re: James Bailey 1861 census - Please
« Reply #15 on: Monday 21 October 13 14:55 BST (UK) »
Strange she cant be found Radcliff.

Thomas HIRST Christened 27 October 1816, St Peters, Oldham
Parents, THOMAS and MARGORY
(Source Familysearch.Org)

So his Mother is with them in 1841 Census

Lancs OPC has;
Baptism: 27 Oct 1816 St Peter, Oldham, Lancashire, England
THOMAS Hirst - Son of Thomas Hirst & Marjory
Abode: Broadway lane
Occupation: Coalminer
Baptised by: Wm Winter
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1818, Page 212, Entry 1690
Source: LDS Film 1655906

Siblings;
JOHN 24 Aug 1800
HANNAH 13 Nov1803
NANNY 22 Sept 1805 (must have died)
BETTY 25 Oct 1807
NANNY 04 Feb 1810
MARJORY 29 March 1812
SARAH 01 May 1814
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