Thurleigh Parish Records

[johnP-bedford]

There was a second marriage for Samuel Sabey, widower to Mary Dickins on 23 Mar 1829 at Keysoe, witnesses Geoge Sabey & Ann Saby

Marriage witnesses.... at Bolnhurst
15 Nov 1790 Francis Sabey & Charlotte White were Samuel White & Elizabeth Ashwell
27 Mar 1778 Joseph Sabey, widower to Elizabeth Warren were Francis Bottell & William Eynes
2 Oct 1771 Thomas Hartop widower of Keysoe to Sarah Seaby were Francis Elms & Thomas Spencer
2 Nov 1761 Robert Moss & Catherine Sabey were Edward Tinggey & Nathaniel Wells
4 Dec 1770 Joseph Sabey widower to Elizabeth Lovell, widow were Rachel Peck & Francis Elms

[bedfordshire boy]

So if William Sabey of Colmworth, son of John Sabey was buried at Thurleigh on 1 Nov 1782 where his will mentions no wife & children, he cannot be the William Saby of Bolnhurst who married Sarah Throssel of Thurleigh on 18 Nov 1785 at Thurleigh.  So who does this William belong to?

True. This is one of the ends tidied up by the will. This William of the will must have been the son of John of Backnoe House, who also named a minor son James and daughter Sarah Hartop. And again, no mention of a Francis thus confirming that he wasn't from this particular non-conformist family.

William who married Sarah Throssell was the son of the "other" Bolnhurst Sabey family, Joseph & Elizabeth (Hall), baptised in Bolnhurst on 26 Dec 1752 who was buried in Bolnhurst age 75 on 28 Feb 1827

And one of the questions raised by the will is what happened to my 6xg great uncle William baptised at Colmworth on 3 Dec 1721, who could conceivably have been the William buried in Thurleigh in 1782 until you found the will which removed that possibility

And another question which has troubled me for years is who was John of Backnoe house? There were two John Sabeys both born at about the same time - one who started baptising children in Northill in 1739 with wife Jane, and the other who married in Wilden in 1741 and was I assume the John in Backnoe House. Which of these Johns is the one who was baptised in Colmworth in 1716 cannot be determined. Whichever it was, I'm a baptism short!

[bedfordshire boy]

Marriage witnesses.... at Bolnhurst
2 Nov 1761 Robert Moss & Catherine Sabey were Edward Tinggey & Nathaniel Wells

This marriage had slipped under my radar screen. Was she the Catherine baptised at Northill in 1740/1 the daughter of John and Jane, whose marriage hasn't been found? Other trees show her as Jane Tingey, with no evidence that I can see other than they named a son Tingey Sabey in 1764. The witness at Catherine's marriage adds support to the theory. Does the marriage entry give a parish of residence for Catherine, other than otp?

[bedfordshire boy]

Sarah Saby a child buried 8 Nov 1752 St Dunstan Bolhurst

There is no burial at Bolnhurst of Sarah Saby on 8 Nov 1752 - where do you get that from?

The date came from you John, although there doesn't seem to be any such burial in parish registers

It next line says on 8 Nov 1752 "Another (named Sarah) buried at Kaisho"

Do you interpret this to be Sarah, child of John Saby ? 

Also there is no burial in 1752 at Keysoe of any Elizabeth or Sarah; Saby or otherwise

[bedfordshire boy]

John, I know you're the wizard of the Marriage Licence Allegations. Next time you're in the library could you kindly have a look for
John Saby of Blacknoe House, husbandman to Elizabeth Hull of Thurleigh. Licence from Mr Lamb of St Pauls Bedford.
They married in Wilden on 29 Mar 1741

Many thanks

David

[Hemmum]

Sarah Saby a child buried 8 Nov 1752 St Dunstan Bolhurst

Sarah Saby a child buried 8 Nov 1752 St Dunstan Bolhurst is on Find My Past
Record source National Burial Index
Data provider Bedford Family History Society

[bedfordshire boy]

I question if she was a child of John and Elizabeth as they already had a daughter Sarah born c 1747

[bedfordshire boy]

Joseph SABEY to Rebecca FISHER or HALL marriage 28 Dec 1814 Colmworth
Licence: Joseph Sabey of Bolnhurst and Rebecca Fisher alias Hull of Colmworth 27 December 1814
Was she Rebecca Fisher bap 4 Jun 1790 d of William and Susan at Northill Beds? Why was she alis HULL?

Have you disregarded Rebekah "daughter illegitimate of Sarah Hull" baptised at Colmworth on 30 Sep 1798 ? ...... as on 27 Mar 1798 Richard Fisher married Sarah Hull at Colmworth...
 

Presumably this must have been a late baptism if her parents were Richard Fisher and Sarah Hull who married six months earlier,

As her later census and burial ages put her birth 1793-6 I doubt that Richard Fisher was her father

[johnP-bedford]

Sarah Saby a child buried 8 Nov 1752 St Dunstan Bolhurst

Sarah Saby a child buried 8 Nov 1752 St Dunstan Bolhurst is on Find My Past
Record source National Burial Index
Data provider Bedford Family History Society

I repeat there is no burial of that child on that date in the Bolnhurst PR burials transcript, which seems to tell me that the Beds FHS when sourcing the NBI took that info from the back of the PR from the notes regarding the "register of unbaptised children" so that date is the day Sarah was born & not buried and which also states she was buried at Kaisho (Keysoe) anyway.