Baldwin family of Tunbridge Wells

[rosie99]

Herbert appears to be returning to Southampton on his own from Durban 17 December 1923 on the 'Windsor Castle'
Embarkation Algoa Bay
Proposed address in UK c/o C Baldwin Printer Tunbridge Wells  occ Postmaster age 54
Country of last residence South Africa

[avm228]

The child you have as

8. Henry James Baldwin

appears to me in fact to be Henry Simons Baldwin, birth reg Mar qtr 1873 Tonbridge.

Simons was his mother's maiden name (Henry Kennard Baldwin m Mary Nicks Simons, Mar qtr 1861 Williton).

I have seen that in 1881 he is enumerated as Henry James Baldwin but I think that is an error by the enumerator. I have also seen that there are other people with similar names in Kent who may confuse matters.

In 1891 he is still with parents as Henry S Baldwin. He marries Laura Marina Blowey in West Ashford in Sep qtr 1898; they're childless in 1901 when he gives his birthplace as Southborough. He probably dies in Ashford, Sep qtr 1950.

[avm228]

Birthdates for the youngest children:

10. Frederick James (1876-1946): birth reg is Dec qtr 1875 Tonbridge.
11. Alice E. born 1880: birth reg (as Alice Elizabeth) is Sep qtr 1879 Tonbridge.

[rosie99]

I only asked about deceased online as I knew that one of the first areas they put on was Tonbridge/Tunbridge Wells.  I tried there first for a burial then went to GRO indexes for a match to see if the age was right. 

William James Baldwin

Freebmd have a death in June qtr 1875 for a child of this name age 9 registered in Tonbridge  2a 334

[rosie99]

(5) Elizabeth P Baldwin,born 1868 St Decuman,somerset. Not found in 1871 census .Need census/marriage/children/death after 1871

What evidence is there of Elizabeth's existence? As you say, she's not with the family in 1871 (or any other census) and I can't see a birth registration for her in Williton district.

In any event the 1868 date for Elizabeth seems unlikely as the family appears to have registered Charles' birth in Mar qtr 1868. I know you've said you don't need info on him but the 1862 birthdate you have can't be right - he was 3 in 1871, 13 in 1881, 23 in 1901.

She is on the 1881 with the family but is listed at the end as age 13 bn Tunbridge Wells - relationship to head of household is Servant 

[avm228]

Ah yes - didn't spot the servant from 1881.

Her surname is indeed dittoed from that of the family. However, it looks as though the only Elizabeth P born in the district at about the right time is Elizabeth Philidelphia [sic] BELL, Jun qtr 1867.

[rosie99]

I think that you are right about her being Elizabeth Bell, she is certainly not evident with that name in 1881 but I can see probabilities for her in the 1871 & 1891 census.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Mary is a shopwoman at a drapers in Luton in 1891 and back home in 1901

[rosie99]

Herbert appears to be returning to Southampton on his own from Durban 17 December 1923 on the 'Windsor Castle'
Embarkation Algoa Bay
Proposed address in UK c/o C Baldwin Printer Tunbridge Wells  occ Postmaster age 54
Country of last residence South Africa

Another journey-
He comes back into Southampton from Mombassa 31 March 1934 on Llangibby Castle age 64 on his own again occ Govt Pensioner  returning to T Wells