Swans of Northumberland

[sherekhan]

My assumption of native is that he may not have been born there but lived there, which might possibly fit in.
Paul

[sherekhan]

Richard, Bedlington was a parish in its own right and does not form part of Horton.  The BT's are not online for this parish, but some kind person might have the fiche and provide us with some information.

[sherekhan]

Marriages from church records on Genuki Bedlington supplied by George Bell.
29 Apr 1819  John Swann = Ann Freeman
28 Dec 1834  Thomas Charlton = Dorothy Swan

The following parishes are adjacent to Bedlington:- Bothal, Horton, Morpeth, Stannington, Woodhorn.

C of E records - Bedlington, St Cuthbert: Records of baptisms 1653-1950, marriages 1653-1955 and burials 1653-1937 are available at Northumberland Archives Service. Bishops' Transcripts for the period 1760-1858 are deposited at Durham University Library Archives and Special Collections, Palace Green, Durham City. The International Genealogical Index (I.G.I.) includes baptisms 1643-1812 and marriages 1653-1812 for this parish, Boyd's Marriage Index includes marriages 1653-1812 and banns 1751-1777. Transcripts of baptisms, burials and marriages 1653-1812 are available at Newcastle Central Library, Local Studies Dept. A transcript of monumental inscriptions at Bedlington (microfiche TN72) is published by Northumberland and Durham Family History Society and these records are also available in book form at Newcastle Central Library, Local Studies Department.

Paul

[sherekhan]

Richard I have sent a message to another group I am a member of so might get some info back from them.
Paul

[Anydogsbody]

How many of those records are online? Living in the north of Scotland which is considerably more than a short bus ride from just about everywhere else can be a real nuisance at times.

Without reference to it, if I recall correctly the Swan/Charlton connection appears in the document I sent you by email.

[..claire..]

Hi

Have checked the Horton registers and can't find Robert's baptism, (although there are for other children of Robert and Dorothy)

He was 30 years old on his marriage licence and the only baptism I can find is this one

Robert Swann bp. 3 May 1772 Alnwick. Father: James

claire

[Anydogsbody]

Very useful, Claire. Thanks for doing that. Were you able to check Bedlington? I feel there are a lot of answers on the BTs for Bedlington but unfortunately they are not online.

It's very tempting to think of this as the right connection just because of the date but we need more corroboration. It would be great to establish if, for example, James was a son of Robert Swan & Dorothy Rickerby or something similar.

The document you highlighted re the Swans of Bedlington gives Mary Brown as the wife of Robert Swan not Dorothy Gilhespy as we have it. Robert himself was the son of Robert Swan & Dorothy Rickerby. This line of succession ( Robert Swan = Mary Brown) was also given in an extensive piece of research I have been sent privately from Pat in the USA.

[..claire..]

Hi

I think the two Roberts in Bedlington are father and son , found these on IGI

Ann 18 July 1762 Bedlington, dau of Robert and Dorothy
William 16 March 1766   "       son        "              "
Thomas 22 May 1774    "         "          "              "
Robert 16 September 1759      "         "               "
Margaret 12 December 1756  dau        "               "

Children of Robert and Mary in Bedlington

Dorothy bn 26 June 1799, chr. 11 August 1799 dau of Robert Swann and Mary Brown
Ann 19 May 1793
Robert 21 December 1794
John 26 February 1797
Mary born 27 December 1807, chr. 14 February 1808

I'm actually getting confused at the how many Robert Swan/n 's there are around!!!!

claire

[Anydogsbody]

Me too!

I think there's something wrong with what we have as the accepted version of events and I think it stems from the confusion of Roberts and Dorothys round about the mid 1770s. Dorothy Gilhespy is currently the favoured wife of the later Robert but I suspect that is completely wrong and that should now be Mary Brown.

From Sherekhan's point of view I'm sure he would want to have that accurate and from mine, if Mary Brown is correct, then it gives a totally different line of descent which does not give rise to Ann Swan 1803, the daughter of Robert(Groan!!) Swan and Isabel Hindmarsh and my gggGrandmother so I need to keep looking.

We'll get there but might take a while.