Butler family from Swaffen Bulbeck

[Hampshire Lass]

That's fantastic David, thank you very much indeed. 

Is it too cheeky of me to ask if there is a baptism for John, born 1806?

[bedfordshire boy]

Nothing in Swaffham Bulbeck, three in 1808 in other parishes of Cambs, but these look too late:
Horningsea son of John and Alice
Stow cum Quy son of James and Susannah
Ely St Mary son of John and Susannah (this one looks too far from Swaffham)

The member submission which looks to be well researched hasn't got a date for him either. Norfolk possibly? No. 1851 gives his birthplace as Swaffham Bulbeck. His second marriage post 1841 to Mary Ann will give his father's name. (IGI extracted shows a marriage in Bottisham on 27 Nov 1847 to Mary Ann Brighton where his father's name is William). But there's another marriage in Fulbourne in 1842 to mary Ann Ison which might also be him - Fulbourne's only a couple of miles or so further on from Swaffham Bulbeck

David

[Hampshire Lass]

Ok, thanks so much for looking again David.

I've found him and his second wife on subsequent censuses and he says he was born in 1804 in Swaffen Bulbeck.  I realised I got the 1806 date from the 1841 census, which wouldn't be precise.

Thanks for all your help. I've made progress here. 

[bedfordshire boy]

I'm not convinced about the 1847 marriage to Mary Ann Brighton - on Freebmd there are only three names shown - there's a female missing. Camdex at https://www.camdex.org.uk/search.cfm also gives the name Mary A Green as a possible partner.

The Baptism Index has no Mary Ann Brighton at the right time but there is a Mary A Green in 1814 in Horningsea, which is where she gives as her birthplace in a couple of censuses. They don't appear to have had children so a child's birth cert is no use in trying to pin down the marriage to get John's father.

[Hampshire Lass]

No, I wasn't absolutely convinced of that marriage either David and had not included it in my research for now. It sounds as though it's wrong and she was Mary Ann Green, so thank you for that info to.

This is actually a tree I'm doing for a friend and so I'm trying not to send for too many certificates for her. I'm a "certificate" person when I'm doing my own tree though but it's different when it's your own. 

Overall I have made progress hare and am happy to know a little more on this line so thank you  very much indeed for your help. 

[Selina]

Banns called at Swaffham Bulbeck on 21 November 1847
John Butler, widr, otp and Maryanne Brighton wid of Bottisham.
Married at Bottisham.

Selina

[Hampshire Lass]

Aha thank you Selina. So John did marry Mary Ann Brighton and that wasn't her maiden name. Thanks so much for that extra information.

[Hampshire Lass]

Hi, I did say I wasn't interested in Mary Ann too much but from a family history point of view I've just looked into her further.

I found her on the 1841 census.....wrongly transcribed on one site as Mary Briton. She's with her husband Richard, who subsequently dies in 1843.
Also at the address is Isaac Brighton, who is 18.....too old to be their son, so I presume he's Richard's brother.
and also Sarah, age 7.

I found a marriage in Bottisham 2.12.1834. Mary Anne Green married Richard Brighton.

Sarah born 1834 is probably their daughter and on the 1851 she is in service.

So that ties in nicely with your research David and Selina. Thank you both very much.

[ReadyDale]

Can anyone please help me out with this family? 

James Butler was born in 1826 in Swaffen Bulbeck. The 1841 census shows him living with his father (presumably)  John Butler, who was born in 1806 and also with his grandmother (presumably) Sarah Butler, who was born in 1776.

He also has siblings.....Charlotte (1828)
                                  Charles   (1830)
                                  Isaac      (1834)
                                  Matilda   (1839)

On the 1851 census his father John has a new wife who I belief is Mary Ann Brighton, who he married in 1847. I am not so interested in Mary Ann for the moment.

I would be very grateful if someone could tell me who the first wife of John Butler is.  I will then hopefully find the mother of James, Charlotte, Charles, Isaac and Matilda.

Many thanks 

A quick reply based on the free index for the 1801-1837 period on the CFHS website. I will see if I have any more info a little later when I get home.

(All at Swaffham Bulbeck)
Charlotte bapt 1827 d. of John and Jemima
Charles bapt 1830 s. of John and Jemima
Isaac bapt 1833 s. of John and Jemima
Matilda was (I assume) after the 1837 cutoff

Also...
James bapt 1827 s. of John and Jemima
Jeramiah bapt 1836 s. of John and Jemima

James possibly died in 1835, as there is a James S Butler burial, but it says "7w" rather than "7y" and there isn't an equiv baptism in Swaffham.

I should have some more info later.