Bridgnorth records

[Trees]

Look at the ages this gives both older than the censuses  suggest and puts Valentine's niece back in the frame
Wish I could find john Davies and Thomas Baker/Barker on a census

[keyboard86]

Hi again another family to possibly check out for Elizabeth in 1841/51

Andrew Downes 50
Ann 45
Mary 25
William 15
Andrew 5
Elizabeth 2
H0107/923/ 4/13 / 19

1851 Mary with Andrew and Elizabeth
Census ref HO107/1986/347/37

Baptism Andrew Downes 25th March 1836 St Mary Magdelene
Baptism Elizabeth Downes 16th June 1839 St Mary Magdelene

Both showing Mother Mary Ann Downes

Also on same 1851 is a Benjamin Hudson Downes baptised possibly 4th June 1843 same mother?

[Trees]

Now did Ann remarry a Baker or Barker with an older child it is not likely that Elizabeth was born a Baker  ie Ann was previously a baker
  This is turning out to be harder than I thought

[keyboard86]

Now did Ann remarry a Baker or Barker with an older child it is not likely that Elizabeth was born a Baker  ie Ann was previouslt a baker
  This is turning out to be harder than I thought

The Elizabeth above had a mother Mary Ann possibly the daughter of Andrew and Ann?
Keyboard86

[Trees]

Its the father's name on the marriage entry that is throwing me for both bride and groom. I like the idea that Mary was Mary Ann and Mum to Elizabeth that all fits rather well

[keyboard86]

Still uncertain as to Elizabeth, but you have family missing in 1871 this looks to be them:-

George DAVIS 29
Elizabeth 29
Mary A 9
Bertha 4
Sarah 1
Residing at Bernards Hill Bridgnorth
Census ref RG10/2743/51/26

And in 1851 George H0107/1986/384/51



Bernards Hill seems to be the residence of this family until at least 1911 George a Stone Mason
Keyboard86

[Mr Gwynne Chadwick]

Hi,
The witnesses to that 1861 marriage were Andrew DOWNES and Eliz’th DOWNES.
Neither name is perfectly clear but two of us agreed on that.

Something else that may help or further confuse this subject.
Several years ago I started my own transcript of Bridgnorth marriages that at that time weren’t on the IGI.
Marriage at St Leonard’s Church on 17 Oct 1858.
Andrew DOWNES, age 22, Bachelor, Labourer of Church Steps. Father = Thomas BAKER, a Labourer. [ I typed two exclamations marks to record that it wasn’t my typo error]
Sarah JONES, age 26, Spinster of Church Steps. Father = Thomas JONES, a Labourer.

Gwynne

[keyboard86]

   That looks to be the Andrew I have with Mary in 1841/1851?

Andrew Downes 25 b Bridgnorth
Sarah 29 b Bardingston
Benjamin 2 b Bridgnorth
Residing at 71, Underhill Street, Bridgnorth
Census ref RG09/1850/41/12
Keyboard86

[Trees]

Well this is an amazing developement so it appears that my Elizabeth (Mrs George DAVIES) had a brother Andrew both giving their father as this Thomas BAKER This brother was a witness to the wedding too who was Eliz'th the second witness.I need to sit down with a pencil and paper for a moment and see if I can peice all your infomation together Back in a mo
A very grateful Trees.