Are these two signatures for the same man?

[LizzieW]

My 3 x g.grandfather appears to have married twice, once in October 1810 to an Elizabeth Hinchliffe and again in December 1812 to an Elizabeth Lumax (Lomax).  Below are the signatures from both marriages.  They look very similar to me, but I'd like some opinions please.

[lizdb]

Looks highly probable they could be the same man.

[LizzieW]

Interestingly, I've found another marriage in 1833 where the signature looks very similar and one of the witnesses is a William Hinchliffe (perhaps a relation of his first wife) and also a Thomas Hobson who could be one of his daughter's father in law.  I've attached the parish record for comparison.  So did John Lockwood marry 3 times?

[lizdb]

I would say that is definitely the same as the second one of the first pair.

Is he described as widower on the second two?

[Greensleeves]

I agree that they are the same man.

Regards
GS

[LizzieW]

Thanks Liz

No it doesn't mention his status on any of the marriages.  I think he must have married 3 times, so now to find the deaths of the first two wives.  So far I've only searched for a death of the first one, but I wonder if she just left and then he took up with the second one.  A baby was born about 2 months before the 2nd marriage, which I presume belongs to the 2nd wife.

Got to go out now to watch our granddaughter in a lunch time flute concert.

Lizzie
ps.  Thanks greensleeves.  Thank goodness he could sign his own name!

[lizdb]

Or it could be that first wife died in childbirth, and left with a new baby he remarried very quickly.
I have seen that before , looking after children especially tiny babies was very much 'womens work' in that era, so it was not unusual for a widower left with small children to remarry very quickly. Often but not always to a widow maybe with children herself, or a girl deemed to be 'left on the shelf' (ie late twenties!) who would welcome the offer of marriage for the security it brought.

[LizzieW]

Liz

I've got quite a few ancestors who married soon after their wife's death, but none who married a new wife within 2 weeks of the baptism of a baby - unless it was the baby of the new wife.

Just got back in, so will do a search for deaths of both Elizabeth Lockwoods now.  Thankfully, as it was W.Yorkshire they are on Ancestry.

Lizzie

[Redroger]

Most likely Lizzie.