Currie Family - James Currie & Jane Sloan, Annan Parish

[Homers]

Hi everyone, I am in N.Z. and trying to research my family roots. Does anyone have any information that may assist in my quest please!!

[ev]

Hi Homers , welcome to RootsChat 

There are a few children baptised at Annan to parents with those names in the 1840's.
Is that the correct family ?
Can you tell us what you have already ?

ev

[Gadget]

Hi and welcome

An interesting family on the 1851:

Whinnyrigg Tile Works, Annan
James Currie, 42, Tile burner, b. Ochiltree, Ayrshire
Jane, w , 36, b. Dailly, Ayrshire
William, s, 16, b.Kilmarnock
Jane, d, 12, b. do
Robert, s, 10, b. do
Adam, s, 8, b. Mauchline, Ayrshire
Charles, s, 6, b. Annan
Janet, d, 3, b. do
Margaret, d, 3 mths, b. do

Children down to Charles are listed as tile makers!

This fits with marriage/banns in Kilmarnock and Dailly (20 and 24 May 1831) for James Currie and Jane Sloan.

This could be the family. Some of my D & G ancestors married into Ayrshire families.


Gadget


Added - I think the last 3 children might well be the ones that ev has found. 

[Homers]

Hi ev,

Thanks for your reply. Not sure where to start, so here goes.....

G Grandmother - Agnes Irving Currie B:21 May 1882, Glasgow, and according to my fathers         B Cert. she was 23 when my father born in N.Z., (hence unable to find on Scottish census).   Agnes died in N.Z.1948.
GG Grandfather Charles Currie B:1844 died N.Z. 1911, Wife Jane, GG Grandmother B:1851 died N.Z.1902. From other Family I understand they married 1st January 1875, Kirkpatrick Fleming.
Charles' parents - James Currie/Jane Sloan.
Jane's parents - Francis Irving/Agnes Irving (Clark), according to Jane's Death Cert., and shows Francis as having been born and married in Kirkpatrick, having resided in N.Z. for 15 years (in1902) when Jane died. According to the death cert. 6 living children, 3 male & 3 female. Their son Frank Currie is buried with them in N.Z.
 

[Homers]

Hi Gadget, thanks for the welcome..

I find this all a little daunting as my father never discussed his family at all and it would appear nor did his siblings talk to their families, so we are a little lost. If you see the post to "ev" you may pick up on something...here's hoping we can fill in some of the gaps. There are no surviving children of Charles and Jane Currie so as you can see we do face a few problems. However we will plug on and with a little help we may reach some conclusions... Here's hoping.

Thanks all.

[anne_p]

This looks like Charles b 1844 with his parents
1851: Whinnyriggs Tile Works, Annan, Dumfriesshire
James Currie   42 Tile Burner. Born Ayrshire
Jane Currie           36 Wife, Born Dailly, Ayrshire
William Currie   16 Son. Born Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
Jane Currie          12  Dau Born Kilmarnock     
Robert Currie   10 Son. Born Kilmarnock
Adam Currie   8 b Mauchline
**Charles Currie   6 SON Born ANNAN
Jannet Currie   3 dau born Annan
Margaret Currie   3 Mo b Annan

At 1861, Jane is widowed
Donkins Cottage, Middlebie, Dumfriesshire   
Name   Age
Jane Currie   49
William Currie   26
Robert Currie   24
Jane Currie   23
Adam Currie   19
**Charles Currie   17
Jessie Currie   13
Margaret Currie   10
Agnes Currie   7 Dau Born KIrkpatrick Fleming
James Waugh   11 Mo


Charles at 1881:
Kinning Park, Glasgow   

Name   Age
**Charles Currie   36 b Annan
Jane Currie   29 b Kirkpatrick Fleming
Rollo I Currie   13 dau b Kirkpatrick Fleming * Rolla Irving. Jane's own daughter b 19 Mar 1868
James Currie   5 son b Kirkpatrick Fleming
Frank I Currie   3 son b Govan
Albert C Currie   1 son b Govan


* Rolla Irving Currie married Charles Saywell Tarrant in NZ 1891

Your note said that Jane had 6 children, 3 males and 3 females.
All 3 sons are on 1881 return
Rolla and Agnes born 1882 make 2 daughters. 1 daughter is still unaccounted for.
She was possibly younger than Agnes .


EDIT: Apologies to Gadget.
I just realised that you posted the  same 1851 return

[anne_p]

 Irving family prior to Jane's marriage to Charles Currie marriage:

1841 Woodhouse, Kirkpatrick Fleming
**Frances Irving   45 Farmer ??
William Irving   20
Jannet Smith   15
Grace Robinson   20
David Holliday   25

1851: Nether Woodhouse, Kirkpatrick Fleming
   
Name   Age
Frances Irving   50 Farmer b Kirkpatrick Fleming
Agnes Irving   33 Wife b Kirkpatrick Fleming
William Irving   18 Son
Agnes Irving   2 Dau
James Bell   22
Robert Gordon   17
Mary Graham   19

1861:Wicketsholm, Kirkpatrick Fleming
Francis Irving   65 Retired Farmer
Agnes Irving   62
Agnes Irving   13
Jane Irving   9
Margaret Irving   2

 1871 : 7 Wickethorn, Kirkpatrick    

Agness Irving   52 widow. B Dornock, Dumfries
Agness Irving   23
Jane Irving   19
Margaret Irving   12
Rollo Irving   3

1881:Wickethorn
   Age
Agnes Irving   62
Agnes Irving   33
Isabella Irving   9 Grand daughter
Francis Irving   4 Grandson
   

[Gadget]

Hi again 

It does look as if the 1851 family is yours!  Here they are in 1841:

Glaisnock Smithy, Old Cumnock, Ayrshire
James Currey, 25, tile maker
Jane, 25
James, 5
William, 3
Thomas, 6 mths
All born Ayrshire

On the 1841 those of 15 and over were grouped into 5 year age bands, so 25 would be anyone between 25 and 29.

I've not found suitable baptisms for James and Jane so far but will have another look. I have the Monumental inscriptions for parts of Ayshire and will look there also.

The banns of 1831 that I referred to (Kilmarnock and Dailly (20 and 24 May 1831) for James Currie and Jane Sloan.) might also give some clues - I'll see what I can find

Gadget

[Gadget]

Some more

I've found the death of Jane Currie, m.s. Sloan ~

Hutchesontown, Glasgow, 29 Nov 1880
Jane Currie, widow of James Currie, contractor. Aged 60.
Parents - William Sloan, farm servant and Jane M.S. McKinna.  Both deceased.
Cause of death - Gastritis and Peritonitis, cert. by W Forrest, surgeon.
Informant - Margaret McGibbon, daughter (present)


Gadget

Added - I wouldn't worry too much about Jane's age on death cert - Margaret probably just made an estimate!