Smith in Hilton/Toft

[Priam_99]

Hi
William smith b approx 1817 in Hilton D 1866 in Croydon
Married Elizabeth Lock in 1850 in Caxton/Toft
Had 3 children 1 called Lucy in Grantcombe in 1851 and the other 2 in croydon
I cant find out what happened to them after 1851 census - I have tried tones of searches in 1861 census but no luck
also any other records?
I know at the time of Lucys birth and in 1851 he was registered as a farmers baliff in Gotobeds Farm Chesterton.
Any help will be fantastic thanks

[lizdb]

Here is the full 1851, just as a starting place

Gotobeds Farm, Grantchester

William Smith 38 Farmers bailiff bn Hilton Huntingdonshire
Elizabeth 28 wife bn Croydon Surrey
Lucy 6 mths  bn Grantchester

What are the names and years of birth of the other two children? Where have you found them?

[rosie99]

From similar post on Surrey board
Had 3 children 1 called Lucy in Grantcombe in 1851 and the other 2 William B 1854 and Ann b 1857)in croydon

[rosie99]

Looks like daughter Ann married William Streatfield
Marriage Mar qtr 1878 
SMITH    Ann       
STREATFIELD    William       
Croydon    2a   237   

In 1891 Elizabeth Smith is living with this couple
RG12/591 f74 P69
   
William Streatfield   35
Ann Streatfield   34
Elizabeth Streatfield   12
Alfred Streatfield   11
George Streatfield   9
Elizabeth Smith   69

ADDED  also with them in 1881
William Streatfield   24
Ann Streatfield   24
Elizabeth Streatfield   2
Alfred Streatfield   1
Elizabeth Streatfield   58  (I presume its her    )

[lizdb]

OK . have seen that widowed Elizabeth Smith on 1871, in Croydon with children  William and Ann but not Lucy

How have you linked that family to the 1851 family in Grantchester of William, Elizabeth and child  Lucy?

With a name such as Smith, just the fact that Elizabeth was born Croydon is not enough!

[Priam_99]

thanks both- it was my post in the surrey board- just trying to cover both angles.
My evidence comes from marriage records
William Smith, "England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: William Smith
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Lock
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 23 Jun 1850
Event Place: Toft, Cambridge, England
Father's Name: Henry Smith
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Robert Lock
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13050-1
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1040559
Reference ID: 2:3P1PM5T
Source

then Lucys birth
Baptism
Day:9
Month:Mar
Year:1851
Forenames:Lucy Elizabeth
Surname:Smith
Relationship:dau of
Father forenames:William
Fathers occupation:farm bailiff
Mother forenames:Elizabeth
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year:
Abode:of Granchester
Place:Toft
County:Cambridgeshire
Record source:Cambridgeshire Baptisms

[rosie99]

thanks both- it was my post in the surrey board- just trying to cover both angles.

It is generally better if you don't duplicate posts initially as it leads to people duplicating replies. 

How did you get back to it being your family in Cambridgeshire, which of the children is your direct line.
   Liz has answered my question 

Rosie

[lizdb]

Yes, it is clear that Lucy, born Grantchester is the daughterof William and Elizabeth, that is borne out by the 1851 census.  It was how you linked that family with the widowed Elizabeth in Croydon 20 yrs later I was seeking confirmation of.
Just as an aside, that last post looks very much as if it has been copied and pasted from another site - watch out for copyright issues!


I see Lucy has middle name Elizabeth
Is this her marriage, I wonder? If so, where is she on 1861/1871?

4 Feb 1877
Christchurch Croydon
Lucy Elizabeth Smith 27 spinster of Thornton Heath father William labourer
To
William Baker 32 widower of Gloucester Road father Henry Woodman laboiurer
Both signed
Witnesses William Smith, Ann Smith, Ann Edsell

But cant see the couple in 1881 to confirm back that it is her!

[lizdb]

[/s]   Liz has answered my question 

How? Thought I was still asking it Rosie! ! 


Priam99 - have you got William's death cert? What addressdoes he die at?