Parent or Grandparent? -Albert Daykin / Charlotte Dakins / George Dakins

[raysen]

Hi Guys,
I have been on and off the chatroom tonight getting some brilliant help as I progressed through my researchful evening. But I am hoping someone could give me some advice as to what I may have found out. It's not particulaly a look up request as such, so please feel free to move to another forum if is better.
It could be a bit confusing so I hope I explain it well:

Great Grandad Albert Daykin (1868-1945)
Married to Ann Eliza Surfleet in 1898 (1878-1944)

1871 Census states he is 3 and lives with George Dakins - 56 and has George Mentioned as his dad (along side Ann, George's wife and George W another son)
1881 Census states he lives with George Daykins - 68 and has George mentioned as hi grandad (along side Ann, George's Wife and William, another son)

Now going back on George and Ann's Census'
1851Census states George - 34 living with Wife Ann, Daughter Charlotte (16 mo) and another daughter Isabella (2 mo)
1861 Census states George -45 Living with Charlotte -11 his daughter
and same year Ann living as a servant with another family.

I have the Birth Certificate of Albert which states his mother being Charlotte Daykins and no father details.
I also have the marriage certificate of Albert and Ann which states George Daykin being his father.

If this is the same Charlotte who is Albert's dad then she was 16 in 1868 when she had him.

So my question is, what does this sound like has happened?
In my mind I have a few different theories, I'm hoping it's not one though!
A) Charlotte got pregnant by someone (an unknown) therefore claimed the child to be his in 1871 on the census, and helped raise him (hence why he is listed as the father on Albert's marriage cert)
B)Something untoward happened between George and Charlotte, hence why she did not mention a father on the birth certificate

I can't find a Census which may be for Albert in 1891 when he would have been 23 (not yet married)
Nor for Charlotte in 1871 (when she would have been 21) or 1881 (31)

Thank you for reading, any ideas / experiences /advice as to what I could look in to next would be highly appreciated

[Geoff-E]

Baptism register shows he was son of Charlotte DAKIN, spinster (3rd on the right) http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=513873&iid=126975

Presumably Ablert was brought up by grandparents and named his grandad as father when he married.  It doesn't mean he necessarily belived it, but better than leaving it blank.

[Geoff-E]

I can't find a Census which may be for Albert in 1891 when he would have been 23 (not yet married)

Albert was with Ann DAYKIN 66 in 1891, RG12/2598/79/28

Marriages Dec 1869   
DAYKIN    Charlotte         Lincoln    7a   1041   
RYLATT    Thomas         Lincoln    7a   1041

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=2178281

Living in Potterhanworth in 1871, RG10/3367/63/7 or https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VRF9-ZDK

1881 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQML-94W

[trish1120]

Marriage;
11 October 1849, St peter, Low Toynton, Lincolnshire
George DAYKINS, 34, Bachelor, Labourer of Horncastle, Father JOHN Daykin, Labourer
Ann BISKET, 24, Spinster of Low Toynton, Father EDWARD Bisket, Labourer
Witnesses, Robert WHITAN/Frances BISKET
(Source FreeREG)

George DAKIN Christened 05 Feb 1814, Potter Hanworth, Lincoln
Parents JOHN/MARY
Siblings;
JOHN, 23 March 1806 (may have died)
JOSEPH, 29 Oct 1809, Death 20 Jan 1814
GEORGE**
RICHARD, 11 May 1817
JOHN, 19 March 1820
MATHEW, 25 Feb 1821
(Source Familysearch.Org)

Trish

[raysen]

Baptism register shows he was son of Charlotte DAKIN, spinster (3rd on the right) http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=513873&iid=126975

Presumably Ablert was brought up by grandparents and named his grandad as father when he married.  It doesn't mean he necessarily belived it, but better than leaving it blank.

Thank you Geoff.
I had seen Lincstothepast before but couldn't quite figure it out, any tips to help me?

I can't find a Census which may be for Albert in 1891 when he would have been 23 (not yet married)

Albert was with Ann DAYKIN 66 in 1891, RG12/2598/79/28

Marriages Dec 1869   
DAYKIN    Charlotte         Lincoln    7a   1041   
RYLATT    Thomas         Lincoln    7a   1041

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=2178281

Living in Potterhanworth in 1871, RG10/3367/63/7 or https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VRF9-ZDK

1881 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQML-94W

Again, thanks for this information, but could you let me know how you came across Albert and Ann living together in 1891, I've tried numerous variation searches on ancestry and on family search sites and I can't locate it?

I never remember about freereg and I just found the Charlotte's Marriage to Thomas on there (if you hadn't guessed I'm someone who after finding out the answer needs to work out the equation still)
Maybe I need to do some double checking on freereg to confirm a few things.

Marriage;
11 October 1849, St peter, Low Toynton, Lincolnshire
George DAYKINS, 34, Bachelor, Labourer of Horncastle, Father JOHN Daykin, Labourer
Ann BISKET, 24, Spinster of Low Toynton, Father EDWARD Bisket, Labourer
Witnesses, Robert WHITAN/Frances BISKET
(Source FreeREG)

George DAKIN Christened 05 Feb 1814, Potter Hanworth, Lincoln
Parents JOHN/MARY
Siblings;
JOHN, 23 March 1806 (may have died)
JOSEPH, 29 Oct 1809, Death 20 Jan 1814
GEORGE**
RICHARD, 11 May 1817
JOHN, 19 March 1820
MATHEW, 25 Feb 1821
(Source Familysearch.Org)

Trish

Again as above, this may just be me typing the wrong thing in, but what did you type in to get the information on george dakin christening date and parents/siblings?
On ancestry I have the 1841 census which says that;

John Daykins   35
Mary Daykins   30
Emma Daykins   10
George Daykins   25

While I haven't actually got in to researching John and Mary so may well have found out about his other siblings, I noticed Emm wasn't one you mentioned? And all the Census' I have points to him being born in 1816/17

Sorry for all the questions again guys, I have found all your information very useful so far, but I like to have things as clear in my head as possible

[Geoff-E]

I said Ann DAYKIN was 66 in 1891 - sorry she was 65    I am using FindMyPast.  If you can't find them, just try Albert (without surname) aged 23 born Horncastle.  If not that, try Sarah READ 72, she's on same page.

Of course you should check things for yourself.

On Lincs to the Past, I never "search" for a name, just browse a register.  Don't bother registering, just put "Horncastle baptisms" or whatever in the search box, hope that the appropriate register shows up, click on it, then guess a page to view.  You can make the viewing window bigger by pressing Ctrl+ a few times.

[raysen]

Thanks once again Geoff, I'm now about to start and have another night on it again.
So hope it's as eventful as the other night

[trish1120]

Hi raysen,
1851 George Dakins says he is born c 1817 Potter Hanworth
1871 George Dakins says he is born c 1815 Potterhanworth
1881 George Daykins says he is born c 1813 Potterhanworth

On FreeREG tick the soundex option to get spelling variations (oops it was Dakins not Dakin as I posted for Georges Baptism 1814)

You then put in Dakins , John, tick Baptisms, 1814 +/- 10 years and check them out.
George/Richard/Mathew are on FreeREG

The others I found on Familysearch.Org, some under Dakins and Dawkins.

Looking back at these again there is a JOHN Dakens 16 November 1797, Ptter Hanworth to a John/Marry, possible a earlier John to them who died.

I always try and find all Baptisms to a couple to narrow down a time frame for the Marriage

[trish1120]

This 1841 is prob George with his Brother JOHN and Wife Mary and I would think Emma is their Daug.
John Daykins   35
Mary Daykins   30
Emma Daykins   10
George Daykins   25

John DAKINS of Potter Hanworth Married Mary SHACKLETON, 18 May 1830, Blankney (FreeREG)

1851 John/Mary are under Daykin and he is born c 1806 Potter Hanworth, 1861 under Daykin same date/pob, 1871 John is under Daykins.