PUNCH - BURGESS families, NSW 1880 > . MOULD, COX, WARNCKEN, more

[migseder]

PUNCH - BURGESS families, NSW 1880  > . Link to NSW family trees for MOULD, COX, WARNCKEN,  GOLDSWORTHY, BRISCOE,  GORMAN, PAMMENT, ROBSON, WOOD,

NSW Marriages has: " 1885,  BORGESS, WILLIAM;  LONG, KATE;  at SYDNEY"

Actually it's William Burgess marrying Catherine nee Punch, widow.  But is he my missing lad, born 1858 in New Zealand? Catherine Punch is an ancestress on several Mundia trees and similar, with links going back, and none of these have an origin for William Burgess, husband Two. Not ruling him out doesn't rule him in.

He dies 1919, and is buried at Rookwood. (No inconvenient brothers or whatever in the funeral notice.) He may be

NSW Deaths: 21860/1919; BURGESS WILLIAM H; son of WILLIAM, no mother, at  HURSTVILLE 

Actually, his parents are Richard (Master Mariner) and Winifred nee Callaghan (Earl Grey Famine Orphan), but a son or daughter providing information might not have been clear on that. His age is given as 63, and would be 61.

Advice please: Are there likely to be anything useful re parents on the marriage certificate? Should I cross fingers and pay for the death certificate and wait four weeks to see what I get? Or, worst case, can you rule this man out, as being born in Aus or the UK or somewhere?

Many thanks

Migs Eder

[Neil Todd]

Get a full transcription of his wedding cert would at least be first hand information.

Agents are noted in resources page and are less than full cert and can be emailed

Neil

[rosball]

Hi Migs,
Here's what to expect on a NSW marriage cert http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

As Neil said a transcription costs $19-20 and will be e-mailed before Christmas (according to one transcription agent).  Listed at bottom of this page http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html#transcription

You can also get partial transcriptions for much less i.e. just parents if want to check it is the correct person

regards,
  Ros

[cando]

Any of these birth notices should give you the father's age and place of birth.

608/1890 BURGESS Francis  Father William Mother Catherine District Sydney      
975/1892 BURGESS Mary M  Father William Mother Catherine Distirct Sydney
30508/1898 BURGESS William J  Father William H  Mother Catherine District Glebe        
11887/1903 BURGESS Thomas A Father William H Mother Catherine District Glebe    

Buried at Rookwood Catholic Cemetery
BURGESS William H   63 years
Service Date 20 Oct 1919
Section Grave Mortuary 2  Area L Grave#1593

There is no headstone for Wm.

Buried at Rookwood Old Catholic Mortuary 1 Row 13 Grave#323-325

Catherine BURGESS
2 Jul 1912  48 years
Wife of William Burgess. Native of Sydney

At the same location

Johanna McCARTHY
17 Mar 1883
In her 72 year.
Native of the City of Cork, Ireland
Erected by her son-in-law, Francis PUNCH.

Charles W LONG
23 Apr 1884  20 years
Also of his son in law. Native of Sydney

Elizabeth PUNCH
7 May 1898  66 years
Wife of Francis.
Native of the City of Cork, Ireland.

Francis PUNCH
18 Feb 1900 70 years
Native of the city of Cork, Ireland

You need a transcription of the 1885 marriage certificate to progress with your research.

Cando

[rosball]

Here is the funeral notice for William Henry BURGESS Oct 1919 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15858643

The friends of FRANK, WILLIAM and THOMAS BURGESS and Mr and Mrs D GOLDSWORTHY are in vited to attend the funeral of their beloved father etc

Here are many funeral notices for Catherine BURGESS in July 1912 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15352722  including ones from Frank, William, Mr and Mrs David Goldsworthy, and also various cousins and friends.

cheers,
   Ros

[rosball]

I don't know if this is relevant - 1886 death of Elizabeth BURGESS

BURGESS.— April 23 at her mother's residence, 143 Bourke-street, Woolloomooloo, Elizabeth Burgess, only daughter of  the late Richard J. Burgess, master mariner.  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13618303

BURGESS. - April 22, at her mother's residence, 143, Bourke-street, Woolloomooloo, Elizabeth Burgess, aged 26 years, only daughter of Richard J Burgess, master mariner, and stepdaughter of the late Mr Michael Galvin. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13636063

Funeral notice (includes a brother James but no William) http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13641540

Strangely in NSW BDM there are 2 deaths for an Elizabeth BURGESS but neither with father Richard or Michael 

regards,
   Ros

[~MERLIN~]

Strangely in NSW BDM there are 2 deaths for an Elizabeth BURGESS but neither with father Richard or Michael 

Probably this one:

BURGESS MARY E d. 1886 SYDNEY #701   
Parents: RICHARD J & MARY    

[rosball]

Thanks Merlin  Looks like a different Richard Burgess, master mariner if mother is Mary 

cheers,
   Ros

[~MERLIN~]

Her mother's remarriage:

GALVIN MICHAEL m. BURGESS MARY ANNE 1862 SYDNEY #187