trying to work out hearth tax - shibden hall HALIFAX

[jackski]

Hi
I'm trying to find out what the hearth tax was for Shibden Hall. I've located a website which has all this information listed, but the only property I can find says "Mr John Lister, of Ovenden, 10"
Does anybody know if this will be Shibden Hall or not? I'm not a native of the area, but it doesn't look to me as though Shibden Hall is at Ovenden! I'm confused! Any help gratefully received!
http://www.hearthtax.org.uk/communities/westriding/w_yorks_transcript.pdf

If this ISN'T Shibden Hall, then can somebody point me in the right direction?
Thanks

[dave the tyke]

Hi jackski,
Shibden Hall was owned by John Lister father of Anne who was the only child. (she wrote a book - I Know My Own Heart: The Diaries of Anne Lister, 1791-1840, which is still available and was recently televised). However, the John you are looking for would have been her g grandfather or earlier. Ovenden is a district close to Shibden Hall.

Dave

[jackski]

Thanks. So would this listing be for Shibden Hall itself or for another property owned by the same man?

[dave the tyke]

Hi,

Short answer, sorry I'm not sure.
Have a look at this visitors guide for Shibden Hall

http://calderdale.gov.uk/wtw/search/controlservlet?PageId=Zoom&DocId=101712&PageNo=10

(lots of info about Shibden Hall on here. there is lots more on Malcolm Bull's Calderdale Companion web site)

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calderdalecompanion/

It would seem from the visitors booklet, that the Hall was in the hands of Thomas Lister in the mid 1600's. Shibden Hall is in Southowram (often abbreviated to S'owram and such) but might have been in Lightcliffe or Northowram back then.
A Thomas Lister is listed as living South Owram in the hearth tax pdf.

Dave

[Marmaduke 123]

A quick bit of Google research tells me that Thomas Lister of Shibden Hall died in 1677, therefore  Thomas Lister of Southowram would be the person occupying Shibden Hall at the time of the 1672 Hearth Tax.

John Lister of Ovenden was probably his brother, married to his wife's sister, and presumably occupying another house belonging to the estate. The Listers acquired the Shibden Hall estate through these marriages to the Hemingway sisters, wards of their father Samuel Lister.

[ThrelfallYorky]

Staff / Records at Halifax library will probably be very helpful, it's the nearest records place. Worth giving them a ring or an e-mail?
The Listers seem to have been connected with Shibden Hall for a lot of its history - but like many other wealthy families in the area, had more than one property. I think Ann Lister may have been the last one to actually live there. .... wasn't there some television programme about her a year or so back?

[jackski]

Thanks, everybody, for your input. It has been most helpful and I think I've found what I needed now. Much appreciated!

[Anji15]

Hi I'm trying to find out what connection my gggrandad had to Michael stocks shibden hall he was left stumpcross in his will thanks anji

[sstarr2008]

It is confusing.Not helped by there being three Shibden Halls. There is the one near Stump Cross then there are or were Upper and Lower Shibden Halls near to Catherine Slack. I think that Upper Shibden Hall may also be known as Old Shibden Hall.

I can recommend Malcolm Bull's Calderdale Companion website which may help http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calderdalecompanion/

Stu