Elizabeth Margaret Lodge born abt 1834 Huddersfield

[familysleuth]

I have searched on other areas of Rootschat for the family of Elizabeth, and her story as an adult. I've been fortunate - I was able to sort out more regarding the Lodge family and Elizabeth's life from her arrival in New Zealand in 1839 to various marriages, liaisons, troubles - an exciting life in some ways - and her death at the age of abt 78 in 1912.

Now I am hoping to find more details about her birth. I suspect she had 2 other male siblings who died as infants as well. From the information that I have, Elizabeth Margaret Lodge was born about 1834. She emigrated from the UK with her parents, Harriet Lodge (nee Williams) and John Lodge, and her baby brother William Lodge who died just before the Aurora landed in Petone, NZ in January 1840. Her age is given as 5 on the passenger list, and this matches with her age given at death. The birth certificate of her first child noted her own birth place as Huddersfield, and her death certificate notes her place of birth as Yorkshire. Her mother's death certificate notes as 'living issue' 3 males and 3 females. I think this may have been an error, and rather than living issue, it noted 'children born alive' rather than 'children still alive'. Harriet had 3 female and 1 male children that I am aware of. It could be a possibility that in the years 1831 (married) and 1834 (Elizabeth's birth) she had 2 other male children. Harriet did not have children from her 2nd marriage, and her 2nd husband had no children from a previous marriage that I am aware of.

So I am presuming to start with that she was born in or near Huddersfield. Her father John Lodge was possibly working as a stone mason at the time. He and her mother Harriet (or Harriett) were both born in Liverpool, Lancashire. At some point - maybe in 1839 - they were living in Birmingham prior to embarking for NZ. I am yet to find her brother William's birth - he may have been born just before civil registration in 1837.

Can anyone help me with where to find parish registers or nonconformist baptisms for Huddersfield in 1834? - cheers, Louise

[warncoort]

A couple of trees on An*******y,birth certificate of Harriet only shows Elizabeth as born England.
Non Conformist BMD .....http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/

[J.R.Ellam]

Hi

For the surname Lodge, I would try looking in the Kirkburton parish then Kirkheaton and Almondbury.
They could have had a couple of children and left them with a relative.

John

[josey]

I know that Huddersfield Library Local Studies have some microfiches of parish records which I think include non-conformist churches. I live a few miles away; I will willingly go & have a look at these sometime in early January.

Josey

[familysleuth]

A couple of trees on An*******y,birth certificate of Harriet only shows Elizabeth as born England.
Non Conformist BMD .....http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/

Hi - thanks for replying - are you saying that there are a couple of trees on an***ty? one of those is mine  and the info I have from the birth cert of Elizabeth Margaret Lodge's  first child, and her death cert is that .... well maybe SHE believed, ....that she was born in Huddersfield, Yorkshire.... so thats what I am exploring at present. Elizabeth and her brother William were born in England, and were passengers on the Aurora. Elizabeth's 2 sisters Sarah Ellen and Lucy were born in NZ. I looked up the non conformist records and found one Elizabeth Lodge, but her parents were Benjamin and Elizabeth, not John and Harriet..... so no help there.

I know that John Lodge moved around a bit..... his brother William took over the marble mason business and then lost it by bankruptcy after a few years after John had emigrated. He could have been working in Huddersfield when Elizabeth was born - from a look at the newspapers of the time there were a number of calls for masons to do stonework for large buildings there - like the workhouse. Cheers!

[familysleuth]

Hi

For the surname Lodge, I would try looking in the Kirkburton parish then Kirkheaton and Almondbury.
They could have had a couple of children and left them with a relative.

John

Thanks John - yes, I thought that may have been possible, and I have done a few searches, but nothing yet... however I will keep looking. John was born in Liverpool, and so was his brother William and a sister Margaret whom I have not been able to trace further. His brother Enoch was born in Liverpool also. I don't know if they had relatives in Yorkshire - their mother Ellen remains a mystery, unfortunately, and I can't find a marriage for her and William Lodge snr, or a death/burial for her either - not in Liverpool or Yorkshire, but that does not mean its not there somewhere!

[familysleuth]

I know that Huddersfield Library Local Studies have some microfiches of parish records which I think include non-conformist churches. I live a few miles away; I will willingly go & have a look at these sometime in early January.

Josey

Josey, that is very kind of you and I would appreciate it very much.

[warncoort]

No county of birth is shown on birth certificate,just England.

[familysleuth]

Hi Warncoot... sorry, I am not sure that I understand your post. Elizabeth Margaret Lodge had a child born on the 'Napoleon' en route to Australia in 1852. His name was William Napoleon Read, and he was registered in Melbourne in 1854. At that time, Elizabeth was claiming that she had married a man called James Read. The NZ birth reg form is very comprehensive, and the mother's place of birth is noted - in this case 'Huddersfield'. Elizabeth then married James Ralph, and little William Napoleon accidentally drowned in 1865. He was buried under the name of 'William Napoleon Ralph'. Elizabeth - after an eventful life - then married John Lewis Horne. Her death certificate as 'Elizabeth Margaret Horne' stated that she was born in Yorkshire, England. So in trying to find her birth certificate, I am considering -as a start! - that she was born in Huddersfield, Yorkshire. Cheers!