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John Henry lobb 1921
« on: Wednesday 18 December 13 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone find out when john Henry lobb died. I have an uncle who has his medal from the boer war (he thinks he was in the hussars) but believes he was killed by the ira in derry. I can't find any record of this, but think he may have died in 1921? Many thanks

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Re: John Henry lobb 1921
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 09:32 GMT (UK) »
Difficult to be sure without more details but here's one possibility-
Death: John Henry Lobb, age 65, Apr./June 1921 Londonderry registration district volume 2 page 126
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRLB-Z5S

Possibly same man- 'pensioner military calvary' (not in Ireland in 1901):
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__1_/Nicholsons_Terrace/601370
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002841218/

John Henry Lobb married after 1911 and this looks like his wife- "Probate of the Will of Anna Florence Margaret Lobb late of 35 Marlborough Street Londonderry Married Woman who died 25 January 1917 granted at Londonderry to John H. Lobb Carrier's Manager the Husband." www.proni.gov.uk
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Re: John Henry lobb 1921
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Very bottom of page- http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~7thwave/html/dat7.htm

Lobb, John Henry
Birth : 19 DEC 1854 ,Monifieth,ANS,SCT
Death : 8 MAY 1921 ,,LDY,IRL
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Re: John Henry lobb 1921
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 12:08 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks! This is the same and one man! Would you know how to find out how he died? I cannot access any details from the derry newspapers as I do not live in the country. This man is my great uncle and I wondered if there was any truth in him being killed?


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Re: John Henry lobb 1921
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 12:23 GMT (UK) »
His death certificate should list a cause of death but may not give much detail to explain exactly how he died. You can order it using the details I posted-
Death: John Henry Lobb, age 65, Apr./June 1921 Londonderry registration district volume 2 page 126

See here for details included on certificates and how to order a research copy from Roscommon-
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Re: John Henry lobb 1921
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 14:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
   Proni Wills site also has a reference to a will of John Lobb who died in 1911. He also lived at Nicholson Terrace Londonderry. Perhaps John Henry's father.

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Re: John Henry lobb 1921
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 17:02 GMT (UK) »
Yes this was his father. I had hoped lobb junior would be on PRONI, but there is only his wife and his father. Thanks for looking.

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Re: John Henry lobb 1921
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 December 13 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi, hope this is of some help in your research.

The Londonderry Sentinel  Tuesday:  10 May, 1921.  Front page.

LOBB:  May 8, 1921 at his residence 35 Marlborough Street, Londonderry.  John H. Lobb, late quartermaster - Sergeant 4th Queen's Own Hussars.  Funeral to City Cemetery this Tuesday afternoon 10th inst at 3 o'clock.

Page 2 of the same paper.

The announcement of the death of Mr John H. Lobb, which took place on Sunday morning at his residence. Marlborough Street, Londonderry, will be received with surprise and deep regret by many of our readers.  Deceased, who was the only son of the late Mr John Lobb, Nicholson Terrace, served for twenty three years in the Queen's Own 4th Hussars, retiring unto the rank of quarter-master sergeant.  he also saw service In India and Egypt and other parts of the Empire, and took part in the expedition for the relief of Khartoum, for which he received decorations.  On leaving the army he entered into business in Derry, and married Miss Bell, only daughter of the late Alderman Samuel Bell, who pre-deceased him three years ago.  On his return to his native city he was welcomed by many friends and made hosts of others subsequently.  He acquired considerable popularity and was generally respected and esteemed by the citizens.  With his sisters, Mrs Stirling, Mrs Brown, Mrs Livingston. Miss Rebecca Lobb and Miss Annie Lobb and other relatives, there will be deep sympathy, in their bereavement.  The funeral, which it is expected to be a military character, will take place at three o'clock this afternoon to the City Cemetery.

The Londonderry Sentinel:  Thursday, 12 May, 1921  Page 4

Military Funeral in Londonderry.

The funeral of Mr John H. Lobb, which took place on Tuesday afternoon from his late residence, Marlborough Street to the City Cemetery, where the remains were interred with full military honours, bore ample testimony to the high esteem in which the deceased was held by his fellow citizens.  There were a very big attendance of Christ Church congregation, of which he was a devoted member, being largely represented.  Prior, to the removal of the remains, an impressive service was conducted by the Rev D.S.H. White B.A. who spoke eloquently of deceased's many qualities of character and disposition and of the high esteem in which he was held in the community, where he had lived a quiet honorable and exemplary life.  A detachment of the Dorset Regiment attended, with a funeral bier and armed escort, which preceded the funeral cortage to the place of interment.  The coffin draped in a long Union Jack and covered with beautiful wreaths, was borne from the house to the funeral car by the immediate relatives. The chief mourners were -  Mr W.C. Stirling, brother in-law, Masters Jack Brown and Jack Livingston, nephews; Mr James Oliver, Mr James Brown (Foyle Foundry) Mrs Sterling, Mrs Brown, Mrs Livingston, Miss Annie Lobb and Miss Rebecca Lobb, sisters; and the Misses Stirling and Brown.  The service at the graveside was conducted by the Rev F.R. White B.A.  At the close, the military fired the customary salute of three rounds and the bugler sounded 'The Last Post' which concluded the service.

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Re: John Henry lobb 1921
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 December 13 19:47 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks DoireM, this was fantastic to read! I could see that my grandfather was one of the mourners at the funeral and that he had a grand funeral. Thanks again for going to the trouble of looking this up.