William NOTTINGHAM and Sarah MILLS marriage certificate (abt 1858?)

[lizdb]

And on 26 Jun 1878,  same church, a William and Sarah Nottingham (indexed Nothingham) , he a painter, of Nechells Park Rd, have a job lot of christenings done -

Ann Marie, Albert, Alfred, Thomas, and George William. Shame no birth dates given.

[CaroleW]

The 1861 entry has no daughter Ellen b 1859 - but the 1871 entry does.  There is then a 5yr gap to Alice aged 7 so b 1863/4

The 1871 also has a 17yr old George Mills shown as "uncle" b Birmingham

Freebmd has no birth reg for Ellen as Mills or Nottingham but many births went unregistered around that time

Perhaps finding Ellen in 1861 would help but I've had no luck so far

[Al-Pal]

This one is giving me nightmares. If they are the same family why would they christen Albert twice? First  in 1866 and then again in 1878? Pointless question really. I have researched Sarah Mills and George Mills, her brother and have only ever found the two with siblings being children of John and Hannah Mills. Not William Mills as shown in the Nottingham marriage cert. I found George Mills living with the Nottinghams in the 1871 and 1881 census........oh dear, under my nose all the time. I have a George Mills living with John and Hannah Mills in both the above census's.

I guess I'm going to have to do some back tracking.
Regards,
Al-Pal

[lizdb]

I would imagine either
a) the first Albert died and they re-used the name
b) they had forgotten they had had him done, and included him in the job lot
Or
C) it is a different couple, it is a different address.

[Al-Pal]

It could be that Ellen was at someone else's home on the night of the 1861 census. I went back and found the photo that my great aunt had given my father and got a surprise. Great Aunt Ellen had written on the back of the photo stating the people in it were Wlliam Henry and Sarah Ann Nottingham of Birmingham.

Another thought occurred to me. This is a photo taken in England. Does Rootschat have a lost persons programme? Somewhere where people can place pictures and have others identify the people in the photo? Someone else in Warwickshire must have a copy of this photo I am sure. I believe i know the reason it was taken. William died 3 days after it was taken and I feel the family took it so as to have a physical memory of him after he passed. Fanciful speculation I know but a photo and a death so close together has me thinking. Thoughts anyone?

Regards,

Allyn