Sophia Hardy nee Mash bc1781 (1841) bc1780 (1851) Bunwell parish

[mikehardy]

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J3V7-1V2 : accessed 21 Dec 2013), Henry Hardy, 28 Jun 1816

This is the christening record for Henry Hardy showing his parents to be James Hardy and Sophia Mash so how do I establish the 1841 and 1851 census for James Hardy and Sophia Mash knowing I have the wrong James and Sophia as per the title of this post.  Or do I wait for Marriage cert for Henry Hardy/ Susan Wolsey?

Mike.

[CaroleW]

Or do I wait for Marriage cert for Henry Hardy/ Susan Wolsey?

Yes - as per my reply above

Henry & Susan's marriage cert will hopefully show his father as James but it is James occupation that is needed for comparison with shoemaker James on the 1841/51.  If the marriage cert shows another name for his father - then you start all over again

[mikehardy]

Thank you all so much,  Carol can you mark this as complete and move to the appropriate board.

Mike.

[CaroleW]

Best to leave it open and when you get the marriage cert - post details in case we are able to help

[candrjm]

Burial for your James Hardy? (there are no other burials for anyone named Hardy at this church
 and as Henry was christened at Beecles this looks like a possibility)

27th June 1822
James Hardy
aged 33
St Michael's Beccles Suffolk

[The Yokel]

Hi
From St Michael's Beccles PR's

1815 Apr 4 Mary Ann d/o James and Sophia Hardy (nee Mack) Millwright
1816 Jun 28 Henry s/o James and Sophia Hardy (nee Mack) Millwright
1818 Jan 9 George s/o James and Sophia Hardy                 Millwright
1820 Aug 26 Susannah d/o James and Sophia Hardy (nee Mack) Millwright
1823 Jul 7 Lydia base born d/o Sophia Hardy bn Jun 30, Washer Woman, this could be explained by candrjm' s info above

merry Christmas
yokel

[CaroleW]

So the James and Sophia Hardy in Norfolk on the 1841 and 1851 censuses are a different family as that James was a shoemaker

[candrjm]

Yes, I think they are (as I posted before)

I wonder if the family moved back to Norfolk after James died

This looks like Lydia's marriage:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12147-10537-73?cc=1416598&wc=MMVP-WVK:n1926471486

and Susanna married in the same parish  on the 11th Oct 1840 (Looks like she was a witness at Lydia's marriage)

Both marriage certificates state father as James Hardy but neither give an occupation.

[mikehardy]

Blimey Thank you very much, it is great to know we have some experts on here.  Clearly I have been in the wrong county! How come this Suffolk connection did not show up when I looked on FS, FindMyPast, and Ancestry, - inexperience or lack of transcripts from Suffolk. I bet the other siblings will show up on the 1841 and 1851 census.

I take it the reference to Sophia Mash is a transcription error (reply 18).

I have ordered the marriage cert for Henry and Susan.

Merry Christmas

Mike.