« Reply #14 on: Sunday 09 July 17 23:39 BST (UK) »
My 3x great-grandmother Elizabeth Valentine b. 1830, Marykirk, had an illegitimate child with a John Jolly. The child was David Jolly b.1849 Marykirk.
Did the baptism state where John Jolly was from, usually written 'of.....'?
Annie
I haven't actually seen the baptism record yet, I've just gone off various census and the SP index which names Elizabeth also. I have mainly been getting records up for my direct lines and only now beginning to delve into the various branches.
It will be something I plan to get the next time I get SP credits which will be after this coming Friday.
Jill.
Hi Jill,
I kept an eye on Elizabeth's son as he was born around the same time as David Jolly to Diana Rae and David Jolly. With help on Rootschat I finally found 'my' David Jolly in England - he named his daughter Diana Reay Jolly which was very helpful of him I have the orginal 51 census for the 2 year old David in case you don't already have a copy. Did your David revert to Valentine? I've not got a copy of his death certifcate and I thought I had every David Jolly who died in Scotland up to the 50 year cut off...not like I'm obsessive or anything
Jen
Hi Jen,
Thanks for this info. Is your David Jolly the David that married an Ann Morrison? I wasn't sure if this was 'my' David or not. There is a census record for 1891 in Liverpool for David Jolly in Mount Pleasant?
I have seen a transcription of the 1851 census where 2 year old David is living with his grandmother and his mother, but haven't seen the original. I haven't done much more research into him at present so I'm not sure if he reverted to Valentine but it will be something I'm looking at starting to solve from now.
Many thanks,
Jill.
mtDNA subclade K1b2b. Father's Y-DNA I-S25383
GEDmatch kit; CF7867455
Father's kit; RY1336515
Mother's kit; AF2312865
Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie