Richard Stallwood - Frimley

[groom]

Have you found a marriage for Lewis and Lydia, I cant find one. I wonder if she was Lydia Yates and they weren't married - perhaps he took her name for a while for some reason. It might be worth getting Florence's birth certificate to see if that gives any clues.

Very strange as the whole family, including Ernest, are down as Stallwood in 1901 and 1911.

[diy]

I have it on  my records that Lewis Married Lydia wood from Backinford Devon in York Town in 1879

[groom]

Is that the Lewis Bonson Yates who married in 1879?

Birth:
Lewes Bonson Yates
Jan-Feb-Mar 1858
Farnham
Volume:   2a  Page:   69

I dont think he was Richard's child - he was born in 1858 and Richard and Jane didn't marry until 1860. Surely he wasn't the lodger's child and the lodger was still with them in 1861? Richard must have been very understanding if that was the case.  Might be worth getting his birth certificate to see what it says.

[groom]

John Henry James Yates

Christening Date:    08 Jul 1832
Christening Place:    Frimley, Surrey, England
Father   John Yates
Mother   Anne

Looks as if he married by 1871  RG10; Piece: 820; Folio: 27; Page: 31 Frimley

Henry Yates   39   Labourer    York Town Surrey
Sarah Yates   45                    Ireland

[diy]

Difficult to know what is going on. The 1861 census has Lewis (Louis) as 3 at the time. So 1858 would see right for year of birth. Jane and Richard don't marry until 1860. So difficult to know who is Lewis Father. I would be rather odd for Richard to have his wife's former partner lodge with them if John Yates was his father.

There is a christening record for a Lewis Bosson Cottee 2nd2 April 1858, Mother Jane Cottee.

Where is the best place to get hold of the birth certificate?

[groom]

There is a christening record for a Lewis Bosson Cottee 2nd2 April 1858, Mother Jane Cottee.

Sounds as if that is it then doesn't it? Lewis Bosson Cottee was Jane's child before she married Richard. As he was registered as Lewis Bosson Yates, it seems very much as if his father was a Yates, although as you say, odd if he was living with them in 1861.

The best place to get the certificate from is the GRO http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

They will  cost you £9.25, which includes postage. Don't go through a subscription site as that will cost you more.

[diy]

when you say he was registered as Lewis Bonson Yates, does this refer to the Farnham record you mentioned Below?

Thanks

Birth:
Lewes Bonson Yates
Jan-Feb-Mar 1858
Farnham
Volume:   2a  Page:   69

[groom]

Yes, from Freebmd http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Births Mar 1858   
Yates    Lewis Bonson        Farnham    2a   69

Please let us know what the certificate says as I'm intrigued now. 

[ciderdrinker]

Good Morning
Ciderdrinker back again ,sorry to have been so brief yesterday but my time on the Library computer was counting down...
You are not the only one looking for Lewis Bonson Yates/Stallwood.There is a thread I think on Genforum concerning him,and they states they already have his birth certificate,no father mentioned.
Manchester Rambler on an earlier thread on Rootschat has found Mr Yates baptism at Frimley John Henry James Yates 8.7.1832 to John and Ann but there is also a sister Jane 31.1.1841 .
 And this marriage may through some light on the Yates /Cottee affair
Marylebone 23.5.1842
John Cottee of full age widower tailor Marylebone s of John hairdresser
Ann Yates  same widow  same d of William Davis bricklayer.
Wit John and Mary Kirkpatrick.They all sign except Mary Kirkpatrick.
So it seems Jane's real surname was Yates and her mother remarried a Mr Cottee,John is not Lewis's father but uncle.
1841 census Godley Surrey-Newtown hamlet of Frimley
John Cottee 42 tailor y
Emily  15 y
Ann Yeats 25 y
Ann 6 y
Jane 6mths
Sister Ann married 27.6.1853 York Town
Edward James Beach /Bach 21 painter  york town John Beech cooper
Ann Yates 19 same d of John Yates gentleman's servant
wit John Cottee and Jane Clark
Will have a look for baptisms ,marriages etc of Yates at Frimley.

Ciderdrinker